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    Hi! My name is Katzpur or, if you’d prefer to call me by the name my parents gave me, Kathryn. (Just don’t call me Kathy unless you expect to see the claws.)

    I’m a 60-year old female living in Salt Lake City. I was raised in the Church by wonderful, active but sort of liberalish parents who encouraged me to think, question, and not simply accept everything I ever heard spoken from the pulpit. Thanks to them, I’ve survived reasonally intact. I was married in the Salt Lake Temple (allow me to name-drop, just once, by then Elder Thomas S. Monson, a friend of the family) 39 years ago to the most loving, patient man I could have ever asked for. We are the parents of two grown children, a son and a daughter, neither of whom is active in the Church. :( I have always believed the Church to be true, but in 60 years, I have never felt comfortable in saying “I KNOW the Church is true.” As a matter of fact, hearing other people say that is very hard for me. Hearing children say it pretty much ruins my Sunday. I can remember as a child, hearing my friends say, “I love my mom and dad and I know the Church is true inthenameofJesusChristAmen.” I used to think, “Right. All you know is what you’ve heard your parents say. You don’t even know what other churches teach! Maybe Patty knows her Church is true, too, and she’s a Catholic. Think about that!”

    About fifteen years ago, I developed a real interest in LDS apologetics and have been posting for a very long time on a multi-faith religious discussion forum. Learning about the Church’s teachings, history and practices by defending it against people with an anti-Mormon agenda has strengthened my testimony considerably. I have never in my life seriously considered leaving the Church, but I’ve had unanswered questions and issues pertaining to some of the Church’s policies and practices for about as far back as I can remember. The doctrines themselves I’m pretty much fine with. As a matter of fact, I concluded a long time ago that if Mormonism isn’t true, it should be. There is not another Church on the face of the earth that I can even imagine finding more that I can agree with in terms of actual doctrine. Unfortunately, a lot of members of the Church don’t seem to make a distinction between what is doctrine and what is policy, and that’s where I get frustrated. I find myself in a constant state of conflict. I go back and forth between thinking, “I’m a bad person and an even worse Mormon. Why can’t I be like everybody else?” and thinking, “What is it with these narrow-minded, self-righteous people! Why doesn’t anybody in this Church ever think?”

    So anyway, as the title of my intro states, I’m here to help and be helped. Hopefully I’ve found a two-way street and will soon find a kindred spirit or two.

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    Hi, Katspur. You will find here a welcoming place where we realize our contributors and lurkers are interested in forging a positive relationship with the LDS Church, even while they may not be interested in traditional interpretations of testimony, revelation, authority, scripture, etc. We spend no effort convincing each other that the Book of Mormon is or is not a historical document, but we do explore with each other how to view it as a helpful document capable of revealing the will of God and bringing people heavenward. We don’t spend time arguing about whether Joseph’s polygamy was or wasn’t inspired, but we do try to see positive aspects of his ministry. In general, we try to be believing LDS, whatever form that belief may take, and we try through it all to remain loyal and loving to our people.

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    Welcome to the forum!

    #219955
    Anonymous
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    Welcome, katzpur! Glad you find this forum. I love that we’re skewing more “mature”, some interesting insight.

    #219956
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    Welcome to this forum Katz :D

    You will know me as Dream Angel… ;)

    Its good to have you here…and to everyone else Katz is a very wise and knowledgeable lady!

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    NotSure2008 wrote:

    Welcome to this forum Katz :D

    You will know me as Dream Angel… ;)

    Its good to have you here…and to everyone else Katz is a very wise and knowledgeable lady!

    Dream Angel!!!! Wow! It’s so good to see you here. I was just thinking about e-mailing you about this site, but then I got to wondering if this was where you got that article you posted about no one being normal.

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    Katzpur wrote:

    NotSure2008 wrote:

    Welcome to this forum Katz :D

    You will know me as Dream Angel… ;)

    Its good to have you here…and to everyone else Katz is a very wise and knowledgeable lady!

    Dream Angel!!!! Wow! It’s so good to see you here. I was just thinking about e-mailing you about this site, but then I got to wondering if this was where you got that article you posted about no one being normal.

    Yes I got that article from this site..ray posted it. :)

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    Welcome to the site!

    #219960
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    Welcome to the forum and thanks for the introduction. Glad to meet new people. I’ve enjoyed reading some of your posts already, and look forward to hearing more from your perspectives.

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    Katzpur wrote:

    The doctrines themselves I’m pretty much fine with. As a matter of fact, I concluded a long time ago that if Mormonism isn’t true, it should be.

    LOL. That was excellent. It made me smile. Welcome to the place where we explore this inner turmoil, the great realm of religious paradox. Instead of running away screaming, we dive right in a take a big mud bath in it. It’s cool and refreshing :-)

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