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    The posts recently about finding a balance with family and church brought to my memory a post I wrote on my own blog about 18 months ago. The following is a slightly edited version of that post:

    Hunger and thirst have one, and only one, purpose – to prompt the one who is hungry and thirsty to eat in order to quench that hunger and thirst, thus protecting the body from the damage that inevitably occurs from lack of nourishment. Thus, we feel hunger and thirst when we are in need of physical nourishment and are at risk of physical harm. As I was considering that (what hunger and thirst really are), I was struck by the correlation between how similar a good physical diet and a good spiritual diet are – and how wise the counsel is that we receive from our prophets and apostles.

    Nutritionists teach that the absolute best way to construct a diet is to eat small meals throughout the day – as often as every 2-3 hours – a little food each time – just enough to “take the edge off” and satisfy the hunger and thirst that is felt as we burn away the calories (nutritional energy) provided by our food. In other words, the best way to manage food is to eat just enough to make the hunger and thirst go away (to replenish our physical energy), then repeat that process each time hunger and thirst is felt (when that physical energy is used). Obviously, that is not possible for most people in the course of their daily lives, so a general compromise is to eat three times daily – and exercise enough to burn the calories we consume when we eat.

    Other patterns of diet are not as healthy, since they ignore the warnings signs (hunger and thirst) and procrastinate the alleviation of those signs. For example, a “feast and famine” approach is unhealthy, as it does not provide steady nourishment (along with a host of other issues), while extreme diets might produce immediate and dramatic weight loss but rarely are sustainable, since they are incapable of establishing nutritional habits, and often cause problems with organs that are overtaxed by too much and then too little nourishment. Often, once the initial weight loss is achieved, old habits return – creating a yo-yo effect with weight control, which brings its own set of issues and complications (both physical and emotional). The effects of binging and purging are obvious and destructive.

    There is one other habit that deserves to be considered: gluttony. Gluttony is partaking in excess, in this case going beyond dietary need and wrecking the proper balance that produces optimum health – and it generally is accompanied by a lack of proper exercise, through which excess calories (nutritional energy) are burned away. When gluttony is practiced to an extreme degree, morbid obesity creates all kinds of health issues. It is an incredibly destructive dietary practice, and it is available only to those who have access to a surplus of food. In a very real way, it is a case of selfishness, since it consumes food unneeded by the consumer and takes that food away from others who actually need it.

    It is interesting to compare this to the advice and counsel we have received for feeding ourselves spiritually. The general forms of spiritual nourishment are fasting, prayer, scripture study and pondering/contemplation. The counsel is and always has been to fast at least monthly (and more often whenever necessary), pray at least morning and night and at various other times when appropriate (and keep a prayer in the heart always), read the scriptures at least daily, and ponder/contemplate the things of God always. This creates a situation in which you are fed spiritually continually, where there is some form of spiritual nourishment occurring at the very moment it is needed. There is no feasting and famine – no “extreme diet” – no binging and purging – just a steady stream of nourishment that maintains an optimum state of spiritual health.

    There also is no gluttony in this approach, as the constant and daily aspects of spiritual nourishment should be undertaken within the context of our other responsibilities of life. Caring for our families includes time in “occupational” pursuits (outside of or inside the home) and recreational activities; we set aside time for the development of talents; we engage in the service of others; etc. This allows us to “burn away” our excess spiritual energy, tone and strengthen our spirits, and create a properly balanced soul.

    I have seen the effects of spiritual gluttony in the lives of some people I love deeply – people I know are good, caring, loving, spiritual individuals. They are good people at heart, but the inordinate amount of time they spend involved in individual spiritual AND church activities reduces the amount of time they have available to spend with family and friends – and/or serve the needy – and/or develop talents – etc., thus reducing the amount of “spiritual energy and nourishment” they are able to “burn away” to provide spiritual light and heat and nourishment and energy for others. Just as with physical gluttony, it removes spiritual nutrition from others, lessening their opportunity for spiritual nourishment. In some cases, it leads those they love the most to assume that they are not loved as much as the pursuit of spiritual nourishment – creating, in one example I have seen, the impression that dead people (temple work) are more important than live people (family and friends and neighbors).

    It is important as we hunger and thirst after righteousness that we do so in a proper manner – feeding our spirits like we should feed our physical bodies – creating real balance in the nourishment of our souls. It also is important that we create the proper spiritual diet for our ourselves, since I am convinced that our spirits, just like our mortal bodies, also are unique in their “physique”. As was shared so eloquently in another post here, cookie cutters are for cookies – not people.

    #224362
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    Thanks Ray,

    I understand this. I actually remarried several years after leaving a 17 year marriage to an LDS man who battered me. I met a man in Church. He was selling potatoes to raise money for the Scouts. His wife had suffered from schizophrenia just as my spouse had suffered and we had a lot to talk about. We dated for about years off and on.

    We finally did get married. This was more of a friendship than a real romance and I have to admit that there was a lot of convenience involved. Just being with someone who did not suffer from severe mental illness seemed so wonderful. Things like actually being able to talk to someone who wasn’t screaming, for example.

    After eight years of marriage and no intimacy, no friendship, no companionship, no partnership, no relationship at all, I divorced. We never fought, he was never home. You have to be home, you have to have a relationship to actually fight. He was married to the church. He had four church callings. His temple calling took all day on Saturday. He was on the ward activities committee and had to set up chairs for not just the Ward, but the entire Stake. That meant no going out on Friday or Saturday night. (I work every other week, 7 days on, 7 days off, nights). Wednesdays were reserved for Home Teaching, five single sisters, one hour visits per sister, extra help for those that needed it. Then there was his Sunday calling and raising money for the Scouts. We couldn’t sit together in Church because I worked in the nursery.

    This would have been ok, but he visited Temple Square once per week to tour the Visitor’s Center and watch either Legacy or Testament. He saw those films at least 100 times. He loved the attention of the lovely young Lady Missionaries who would spend lots of time talking to him. He spent hours driving women to and from church and ended up having an affair with a married convert from Brazil because she refused to drive herself to church. She said that the missionaries always picked her up and drove her to church and then sat with her. She wouldn’t go to church unless someone picked her up and drove her to church – no driver’s license because she was an illegal immigrant. He ended up “helping” her so much. He baptized her daughter, took her daughter to the zoo etc. etc. Finally, he was asked to drive to Arizona to pick up one of her illegal alien children from a relatives. He spent three days with her driving to Arizona and back to Utah. This is how he was “helping” the new converts.

    My husband did nothing for eight years but preach to me and quote verbatim missionary discussions. He constantly (and I mean constantly) showed me pictures of himself as a missionary and read me letters from families that he had converted. I honestly felt that I could never really bring him home from his mission. I hated this because I was a returned missionary and I memorized those exact same discussions. I wanted to be treated as his spiritual equal, not an investigator. He worshiped Gordon B. Hinkley and referred to him as a “legend” and a “celebrity”. We couldn’t go out for my birthday because President Hinkley passed away that week and he spent the evening in line for the viewing and the day watching the funeral.

    He delivered Pizza part-time and would not get a full-time job with benefits (too busy with the church). I worked overtime to pay the bulk of the bills and was exhausted when Sunday came. We had a large mortgage in just my name and I paid most of it. I started having trouble paying tithing so I couldn’t go to the Temple. He always paid a full tithing and so was “worthy” to go to the temple. He bought a $28,000 car just six months after buying a $20,00 thousand dollar car. I was going insane trying to keep us from bankruptcy. He ran up $13,000 in credit card debt from buying gas and eating in expensive restaurants while I was at work. He said that the super hot car bought him respect and attention from young girls. He explained how her gave young girls rides all over the place, one young woman who had just paid from breast implants – (gees, she can afford breast implants, but can’t buy her own car).

    I filed from divorce – had to pay him $30,000.00 out of my retirement for his share of equity in the house, plus pay off his $13,000.00 credit card debt because it was in my name. Yea, he paid a full tithing, but I couldn’t. I had to pay bills, buy groceries, pay for health insurance. My bishop determined him to be worthy to be a High Priest and hold a temple recommend, me not. I think that is when I started to feel a bit disaffectioned from the church.

    Thanks for letting me vent. I think I really got angry when the Church presented itself as being “pro marriage”. I know so many friends who are divorced because their husbands were “married to the church”.

    #224363
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    Wow, MWallace! Thanks for sharing (venting). I hope that we can all benefit from what you have experienced. And I’m sorry you went through that.

    Ray, thanks for your article! I’ve been thinking about this topic (again) lately. I think it is important to know that even monks spend a lot of time each day doing “manual labor.” There is a balance in our lives and it is important to do manual labor in the form of service and caring for our families. We must put our faith into action. That is where the love comes in to play.

    I’ve decided that my “manual labor” is caring for my 3 children and my home. I need to take them outdoors and find ways to introduce them to serving others. I can’t neglect these important things by spending too much of my time reading “good books” or focusing on my internal spiritual journey.

    As MWallace has pointed out, no amount of serving the ward or “the Church” is going to save us if we are neglecting our family and responsibilities towards them. Balance is essential.

    #224364
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    Wow Wallace,

    Thanks so much for venting and sharing some of your story. It is a perfect example of what imbalance can do in our lives. What a bad nightmare you have had to go through in your life and I am glad you are out of that, although I can see that it was not without great costs. I can relate to your second marriage, although not to that extreme. This is one of the reasons I almost divorced two years ago myself. My husband is a workaholic, and over achiever and neglected me and the children for church callings as well. As I was reading what you said about your husbands, the thought ‘narcassitic’ came to mind. What selfish, egotisical describtions. Everything was about them and looking good to others. It can make you angry when everyone tells you how great your husband is, and what an unselfish, serving person he is in the ward and he gets upgraded to all these callings. But, it reminds me of the scripture in 1st Corninthians 13, how you can give all your money, time, and talents but if it is done with selfish motives it is done in vain. One of the things God told me about my husband was that he has withheld a testimony from him until he learns to find balance in his life. I do think alot of people in the church used their callings and work to avoid dealing with problems in the family. But, I also think this is a way of avoiding emotional intimacy as this is so difficult for them. Your second husband sounds like someone who had no self worth and was always trying to show how important he was and needed constant approval and affirmation to feel good about himself.

    I can see why you could be disaffected from the churh by leaders not understanding your pain and what you have gone through and elevating him. I am soooo sorry.

    #224365
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    Thanks Ray, this is a very important subject. One that I’m sure gets far too little attention. It reminds me of the saying: “My church says family comes first, but in my family – church comes first.” Too often I see standing family commitments relegated to a position behind all church callings and requests. The pulls are probably most difficult for leadership.

    Again I’m reminded of “moderation in all things.” Personally, I need to remember that this includes my own pet projects.

    #224366
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    Thanks, MWallace57. I loved your story. I think most of who have been active in the church all of our lives can relate, we know someone like you have described, your former husband.

    #224367
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    Old-Timer wrote:

    There also is no gluttony in this approach, as the constant and daily aspects of spiritual nourishment should be undertaken within the context of our other responsibilities of life. Caring for our families includes time in “occupational” pursuits (outside of or inside the home) and recreational activities; we set aside time for the development of talents; we engage in the service of others; etc. This allows us to “burn away” our excess spiritual energy, tone and strengthen our spirits, and create a properly balanced soul.

    Ray, thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule to write this wonderful sermon on gluttony.

    To me, you have touched on exactly what the Word of Wisdom is all about…not just coffee, tea, and nicotine but spiritually and physically understanding Orson’s ideas of moderation and healthy balance in all things.

    Lately I have found that on one Sunday when I was wound up, skipping church once to take my boys to the park rejuvenated me physically, emotionally, and spiritually. I could not do that every week, but doing it once was a nice change of diet to recharge my batteries. I think sometimes the way we practice fasting to abstain from some worldly things to help us appreciate them and show we are under control and balanced in life, can actually also apply to spiritual things. If I can “trade up” and skip a priesthood meeting to be with my daughter at her school volleyball game…it can remind me that I can say “NO” to church things occasionally and actually be better off or be reminded what my priorities should be. Sometimes I have found it spiritually rejuvenating to stop prayers or reading the scriptures, but just like a fast would not work if you did it every day…I can’t “fast” from church/prayer/scriptures/temple every week and have that benefit me.

    I’d be interested to hear what people think about this question:

    Do you think you can become unbalanced with TOO MUCH prayer and scripture study?

    I just think that sometimes people think moderation in all things only applies to an identified list of “Don’ts” when it really applies spiritually to all aspects of my life, including church service and sometimes even prayer. I think you can get too much exercise and hurt your body, and you can get too much spiritual exercise and hurt your soul, if it is unbalanced (i.e. gluttony). Would you all agree?

    #224368
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    Quote:

    I’d be interested to hear what people think about this question:

    Do you think you can become unbalanced with TOO MUCH prayer and scripture study?

    YES! This is kinda what I was talking about in my pp. I have children! It would actually be wrong and irresponsible of me to spend too much of my time studying the scriptures. I do think I can carry a prayer in my heart all the day long and be just fine, however being on my knees in prayer must be in balance.

    We must engage in life. The scriptures are a guidebook to teach us how to live. If we don’t apply what we learn, what is the point?

    Everyone has to find their balance. Sometimes it is found after experiencing the opposite!

    #224369
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    Just as an interesting side note, St. John of the Cross spends a good amount of time discussing those who are distracted from the path by spiritual gluttony. He describes God calling them to their “dark night of the soul,” a time of aridity and thirst for them, or a lack of finding enjoyment, to purge them during this time of darkness from their self-imposed blindness.

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