MWallace’s comment: Please discuss

At any moment, they are going to throw the whole country into Taliban-like Mormon Sharia law, forbidding women to work outside the home and sending gays to the Gulag.

It’s a super-powerful and highly vocal organization that no one has ever heard of and gets no attention except from MWallace. I can’t find anyone that matches her descriptions using a simple Google search.

They sound very dangerous… [dripping with sarcasm]

On a more serious note, it looks like lots of anti-Mormon sites like to parade around those facts — that someone apparently did the baptisms for Hitler and other past infamous people. I’m guessing that anything she saw was probably anti-Mormons claiming that the LDS Church wants to do all that, and they make use of Church graphics on their site. That seems much more likely to me. They are probably making those complaints against the LDS Church (you know, lots of wild accusations, Mormons have horns and tails too, that kind of stuff), not that there is an organization that is working towards those goals.

If she can’t tell us who they are, we can’t respond or do anything about it on this site. That’s my recommended position.

WOW!! I read her comment at the link provided, and it’s flat-out scary.

Is she a classic troll – or simply wildly delusional?

From some of her other comments (especially on Masonry and George Washington), I think she is delusional.

Here is MWallace’s private message to me. It is enlightening. This is a deeply personal obsession for her, and she is to the point where she feels she is receiving revelation for the LDS Church:

Dear Ray,

I am actually glad that you deleted my post as it was not appropriate and there is still some legal actions that will result for these events.

Here is a link:

http://nowscape.com/mormon/hitler_temple_2.htm

It appears that there is an active element within the LDS Church who was attempting and is now attempting to submit names of notorious mass murderers such as Adolf Hitler for LDS proxy ordiance work. Adolf Hitler was baptized by proxy, endowed and sealed to Eva Braum.

I found these actions to be hateful, highly disrespectful to the Jewish community and to the Latterday Saints (indeed to all Christians). I discovered that these actions were being perpetrated by a formally organized hate group, not just one disgruntled, sick individual.

Additionally,I believed that this organized hate group poised a serious and persistent threat to the safety and well-being of residents of the State of Utah and of Southern Idaho. Verbal threats had been made and hate crimes have been committed. The Former Attorney General of the State of Utah, Jan Grahm organized a group to combat this hate group. The anti-hate group was disbanded following the 9-ll attacks because Utah needed the anti-hate group money to combat terrorism and secure the State for the Winter Olympics. The hate group grew unchecked for several years. During that time, these acquired some Church copyrighted materials and began using those materials for propaganda and political purposes. One of the documents of President Gordan B. Hinkley’s Proclamation to the Family. This document was being used by anti-gay extremists posing as members of the Utah Coalition of Traditional Families.

I prayed about this several times. I asked the Lord and many other Church members what I should do. I felt a very strong spiritual impression that we, as a Church, needed to take every single precaution that the Attorney General recommended. This would involve not allowing any organized hate group to have access to Church copyrighted materials and to secure our genealogical and temple records using computer passwords. I was assured through the Spirit of the Lord that if we diligently strived to do all that we could, acting within our legal rights, that the Lord would protect us and preserve our faith.

This did not happen. For some reason, the Church refused to safeguard LDS Church copyrighted material from radical, right-wing, extremist, hate-groups. I tried in earnest to persuade them, but to no avail. The Temple was “defiled” and the use of the Savior’s name was violated because these groups use the name of the Church. This is my primary source of conflict with the Church.

(If you must know why I know so much about this hate-group, I have a dear son-in-law who suffered from Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder from a military injury). He was actively recruited by this hate group. He was sent to jail, convicted of a gun crime and hate crime. My daughter (his wife) was pregnant at the time. She lost one of my twin grandsons due to miscarriage and delivered brother prematurely. The stress and anxiety of having her husband in jail was a factor in her high blood pressure and toxicity. She became extremely ill and weak. My grandson was so weak, little and premature when he was born, that I feared he would not live for even one week. He is thriving no and has gained lots of weight, thank you. But, sometimes I just break down and cry for his little brother who died. He was just a tiny little soul, to premature to live. I feel like God took him because his dad committed a hate crime and nearly killed a women and a man. It really made him start to want to repent. He confessed to the crime and gave me information about who he was affiliated with. I don’t want to associate with those people. I don’t want the Church to be involved with them. I just want my grandson back. We let a helium ballon go up to heaven for him. Families are sealed together so that they can be together even if one of them dies. That is why we have Temples. It isn’t so these hate groups can perform ordinances for killers.

hmmm. troubled lady. very tortured.

oddly enough, I have no problem with Hitler et al having their temple work done, the atonement being infinite and all (even for nazi nutheads). But being open to that sort of forgiveness is very christian, and I get why Jewish groups would recoil at such seemingly dismissive acceptance of their ‘redeemability.’ and I get why the church would gladly defer to such pressure.

Not sure what to do for Mwallace, though. needs to work through some very complicated grieving before being open to more insight and nuance, it seems.