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    It’s been about a year since I first began confronting my crisis of faith head-on. It’s been an up-and-down ride. There are days I think I just might make it, and days I think it’s time to run — not walk — the other direction. I recently realized that a lot of what was holding me to the church was fear of family disapproval, specifically from my dad. And I realized that was a pretty sucky reason to stay. Since making that realization, the past few days and weeks have been some of my lowest lows in terms of commitment to the church. Still, this afternoon I went visiting teaching and had a great experience. You see, I love Mormons. I get them. I speak their language. And as different as I feel at times, I’m one of them.

    So I think it’s about time I consider — really consider — what it might look like for me to stay Mormon. Not for my dad. Not for my family. Not for anyone else but me. Then I can decide if I can live with that picture…or not. So here’s my first attempt. I wanted to share it here because knowing other people would see it made it feel more “real” to me, somehow. Thanks for listening.

    What I believe…

    1. I believe an inclusive, loving, transcendent God who is in and through everything. This means that He is in the LDS church — but not exclusively. He is bigger and greater than the anthropomorphic God of Mormonism, though the anthropomorphic God of Mormonism can teach us beautiful things about God; among them, that He knows better than we realize what it means to be human.

    2. I believe that God is to be found through symbols. This means that God is in LDS rituals — but they are not exclusively salvific, nor are they literally required. They are valuable because they orient people toward God in a meaningful way.

    3. I believe that God is to be found through service. This means that the LDS church’s opportunities to serve are a tremendous asset. Because of institutional culture, however, these same opportunities can become a burden if service is not willingly rendered.

    4. I believe that churches and religious organizations are “of God” insofar as they fill people with love and a longing for reconciliation with each other and with Him. This means that when LDS teachings and practices lead people to charity, love, tolerance, and respect — for themselves, others, and God — they are “true.” When teachings and practices lead people away from these things, they are “false.”

    5. I believe in a God of Freedom. This means that the LDS church is right to emphasize the importance of agency. It is wrong to limit that freedom through policies and procedures that obstruct or hinder freedom, especially in matters that have little bearing on a person’s ability to love and serve.

    6. I believe that whom God calls, He qualifies. This means that God’s power may very well be rightly exercised by the men in the LDS church. It also means that wherever spiritual gifts are present in a life — whether in men or women, in or out of the church — the authority to exercise them is also present. This is what priesthood means to me.

    7. I believe that I am accountable to God, not man, for my standing before Him. I do not have to report or defend my lifestyle choices and beliefs to anyone but God, and when it impacts them, my family.

    What it might look like for me to be LDS with these views…

    1. I serve willingly, but not compulsorily. I am happy to serve so that I can be a part of the community and give of myself to others and God, but if I receive a calling that I don’t feel comfortable performing, or that doesn’t seem to fit with my life circumstances, I am at liberty to say no.

    2. I am a positive member of the community. I affirm what I can affirm, and for the most part maintain respectful silence on issues that are troubling to me. If I feel a teaching is particularly damaging, I might speak up about it, but I try to do it kindly, unthreateningly, and temper it with positivity and love.

    3. Temple recommend interviews are a question mark. I feel they are unethical and wrong, but I also enjoy the spirituality of temple service. Here I must decide which means more to me, and it is a decision I’m still struggling with.

    4. I do not allow my children to participate in bishop’s interviews. For now, based on past negative experiences, they are off limits. I am free to make that decision without guilt or anxiety.

    5. I reach outside the LDS community for additional fellowship and spiritual nourishment. I see my participation in the LDS church as an opportunity to serve and learn from the good that Mormonism has to offer. I recognize that it does not have everything to offer, so I am at liberty to reach outside and find other spiritual communities to develop my relationship with God. Perhaps this is another church; perhaps it is a book club or group of friends whose beliefs and/or approach more closely resembles mine than the LDS community at large.

    So that’s a start to a picture of what it might look like for me to stay LDS. I’d love to hear what the picture looks like for others.

    #228005
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    Gee. I like your statement of beliefs so much I don’t know what more I can offer. Can I just use yours? Your B4 doesn’t apply directly to me. But I find them all very admirable, and I share the A section fully with you.

    One way my own experience may differ is:

    I live by my own testimonies (of peace, of simplicity, etc.) as I am present in the LDS Church. I feel free to avoid wearing a tie, a belt, etc. I avoid all debt and promises. I call all the members and leaders Brother and Sister. I give my 1/10 or more to conscientiously compliant places. I don’t “seek riches to do good”.

    And of course we share:

    When I am there I am serving, not being served. I can pick up trash. I can clean sinks and toilets. I can help in nursery. I can substitute in Primary.

    #228006
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    This is beautiful, Katie – truly beautiful.

    Thank you.

    #228007
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    That is a seriously awesome post!!! I think I shall steal it and tweak it a bit for myself. :D Thank you for taking the time to share this with us.

    For me, I’ve maintained my high level of involvment in the church for basically the same reason. Fear or rejection/reactions.

    I guess I would add to B3 that the temple ceremonies have some wording and actions that I find sexist. I don’t really want to participate now that I feel that way.

    I have allowed my oldest to have his first bishops interview. I warned/coached him ahead of time about questions regarding chastity/p0rn/M. I still regret not asking the bish not to ask the p0rn/M questions because I don’t really like that my son was too embarrassed to tell me exactly what was asked. SOOO, I’m feeling uncomfortable, but still going with the mainstream flow.

    Goodness, everything else I could adopt, although I am currently not feeling inclined to label God as “he/him” and look for ways to avoid it. LOL

    Anyway, I really love what you wrote and how you have expressed yourself!!! :)

    #228008
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    Thanks for this post. I think for the LDS church to be a healthy place for anyone it needs to be a choice, and on our terms. I love what you have done.

    #228009
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    Love it! Great job articulating what many here would agree is a very successful approach.

    #228010
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    You know,

    I LOVE Mormons too! I think that is the reason why I can’t just walk away from the Church. I still hold out fantasies that I could teach them, nourish them, and help them overcome some of their fears. So stay in the Church, dear. I am sure you will be able to do a lot of good.

    P.S. some of us dissidents have even introduced cherry jello at funerals instead of green jello – ahhhh, for shame!!

    #228011
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    I really like the way you have stated your opinions and I sense so much confidence in your post.

    Perhaps you haven’t figured out answers to all things (temple recommend interviews, etc etc etc), and so you continue to seek how you’ll deal with such things, but in the mean time, you sound like such a positive and loving person (service, loving mormons, seeing value outside the church, etc etc etc) and yet you know you can put your foot down without fear of what others think (no worthiness interviews for your children etc etc etc).

    What a great example. Thank you so much for sharing how you’ve chosen to stayLDS and how it seems to work for you. I share a lot of your thoughts and feelings. I think I can have peace by making it “my church” and be grateful for how it blesses me and my family personally and individually. Kudos!

    #228012
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    Katie,

    Thank you so much for that post. I had my crisis of faith about 6 months ago and I’m just beginning to put one foot in front of the other. I’ve been in such a state of confusion and turmoil, but I am beginning to sort out what I believe and what I don’t. Your post has helped me so much. :)

    #228013
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    Thanks Katie. Thanks for sharing that. I see so many important decisions in there based on the themes of setting correct boundaries, and also giving yourself permission to truly enjoy what uplifts you. Experience is truth.

    It’s not because you have to, you have duty, you are afraid, or someone told you, but because you just know yourself. You know what works and you go after it!

    #228014
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    It has already been stated that you are very courageous and wise for posting these beliefs. So I add my compliments to all the others, but I also offer some help where you seem troubled. I myself used to enjoy Temple Service, so I looked at it from a different plane. I am accountable to God, not man. The bishop may try to make you accountable to him, but he is just a man. When I wanted to go to the temple, I said what I felt needed to be said in order to grant me access. Now, I don’t attend anymore, so I wouldn’t hold myself up as an example of how you should act. I only offer the mental acrobatics I turned in order to get where I thought I wanted to be. And I do this so that you can take this option to your God and see how He feels about you doing the same.

    It’s really too bad that not all people are allowed the same privilege by the church as listed in the 11th article of faith to “worship how, where, or what they may”. You are all discovering the reality of religion. No one is a cookie cutter mormon. So many beliefs within the church seem to be so universally accepted without any regard for their validity. I propose that all of us continue with Katie’s courage to testify of the things we believe and no longer try to cram ourselves into the mold of the perfect mormon. Let us all stand by our beliefs. If I have seen anything in this post, it has been the truth that everyone believes differently. Not everyone has the same struggles, not everyone has the same witness, not everyone has the same experience. God will not judge us based on what we don’t know. God knows what we know, and how deeply we have learned the lessons we’ve been taught. Some of us can learn from listening to drug awareness week speakers in school that we shouldn’t use drugs. Some of us have to feel the addiction before we can learn the lesson. I don’t know why it is that some of us can learn from other’s experiences while others of us have to learn from our own experiences, but I know that this is how it is. I don’t know the things you know, and you don’t know the things I know. God alone knows what you know, and what I know and with that we should let it suffice to leave judgement alone with Him. Hopefully by setting examples for our fellow saints and sinners, we can help them to remember that all of us are unqualified to judge our fellowmen. Let us consider Romans chapter 14. “Let us not, therefore, judge each other anymore, but judge this rather: let no man put a stumbling block in his brother’s way.”

    I applaud all of you for your integrity and courage in speaking out your true beliefs and I pray God will bless us all for being authentic in our beliefs. Thank you Katie, for doing more for all of us than you realize, simply by defining your true core beliefs.

    #228015
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    maverick, that was very beautiful.

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