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May 18, 2010 at 5:49 pm #205029
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GuestOne of the downsides of the Family Search site, and something that they should remedy perhaps is that there is no mention of the cause of death. I think that this is actually crucial. If we are to get one thing out of our family research which is NOT spiritual or historical, perhaps it should be that we can know exactly which diseases run in our families. Has anyone ever mentioned this? Secondly, one other thing that’s come out of researching my family history is not to become snobby and self-righteous. I’m not some high-faluting son of kings, I’m actually descended from couples who married when the woman was a few months pregnant, a second marriage deriving from an adulterous affair, and a woman who supposedly went off and had children with another man while married. Also, it turns out that if it wasn’t for the alcohol business, some of my ancestors would have been out of work!!!
May 18, 2010 at 6:33 pm #230954Anonymous
GuestThere is a spot on PAF where you can put the cause of death. It is very cool to be able to add that info all right there in one spot. I’m kinda suprised they didn’t leave an option for that on the New Familysearch program. It looks like it can’t even be added on. Maybe that will be rolled out later.
Lots of fun and fascinating side effects of family reasearch.
I discovered DH and I are related. His 14th great-grandparents are my 16th great-grandparents.
May 18, 2010 at 8:08 pm #230955Anonymous
Guestjust me, now I understand!! 😈 😯 May 18, 2010 at 8:23 pm #230956Anonymous
GuestWell, one thing I’ve learnt from family records is that I am at very high risk of heart disease, so I’m going to have to lead a healthier lifestyle. I get the feeling that some people do the family research just to get names and baptisms… whereas they can learn interesting things about their genetic history (see above), and how much has changed and not changed.
As an aside, many years ago I was very uncomfortable about the idea of baptizing dead relatives, but have since come round to it.
May 18, 2010 at 11:58 pm #230957Anonymous
GuestOld-Timer wrote:just me, now I understand!!
😈 😯 Teehee!

SamBee, I have cancer in my family tree. Boo.
One of my good friends thought that members in her family died young. She discovered that people in her line used to live into thier 90’s. It is only the last couple generations that have started dying young-probably due to very poor lifestyle choices.
I agree it is really important and good information to have. Knowledge is power!
May 19, 2010 at 4:48 am #230958Anonymous
GuestI will say that Utah has some of the best genetics research in the world. As part of my masters degree studies, I became familiar with a few studies linking genealogical records with certain diseases. Utah was picked specifically because of the genealogy research done here. I worked on a Psoriasis study, and they hoped to identify genes linked to Psoriasis. So, while the church may not put cause of death in FamilySearch, I can tell you from personal experience that they genealogical records are being used extensively by researchers to identify both life-threatening and chronic genetic diseases. After you get to the 1800’s, I’m not sure how readily accessible cause of death is, unless it is infamous. For example, my wife has a relative named Thomas Tew. When I was in the Bahamas on vacation, we visited the Pirate Museum, and sure enough, there is a pirate named Thomas Tew. The only problem is that my Thomas and Pirate Thomas are off by about 200 years. I’ve been trying to find a link to the pirate, but have been unsuccessful so far (to the relief of my wife!)
Anyway, the pirate Thomas Tew was executed for piracy, so his cause of death probably won’t help isolate any genetic conditions.
Apparently, Pirate Thomas was a “good” pirate. In the late 1600’s, the governor of New York commissioned Thomas to raid French ships. (New York was a British colony, and the French were the bad guys back then.) When the French caught him, they executed him. Incidentally, the NY governor was thrown out of office for his shenanigans. Arrrrgh!
May 19, 2010 at 12:17 pm #230959Anonymous
GuestIt’s also worth noting that if you find out about ancestors, sometimes you can identify weaknesses that have been passed down through the ages – which can help lesson your natural tendency to blame yourself for those weaknesses – which can make the 2nd Article of Faith and the Atonement more meaningful. (not being punished for Adam’s transgression – remembering that “Adam” means “man”) May 19, 2010 at 2:50 pm #230960Anonymous
GuestI discovered that one line of my Scottish ancestors were master blenders of the peculiar flavored whiskey that hails from that part of the world — Scotch. They are also master blenders of fine pipe tobaccos. Both are still available today, and highly regarded for their quality 😯 Gotta love genealogy!😆 The other side of my Scottish ancestors were notorious border raiders, known for their skills as vicious light cavalry, and for robbing cattle from the English — trouble makers through and through. They would rustle the cattle into a hidden mountain hollow called “The Devil’s Beef Tub” where the plunder could then be distributed or sold:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s_Beef_Tub I definitely have the genes of a troublemaker
😆 May 21, 2010 at 8:21 am #230961Anonymous
GuestThere are surprises in family history research. I was helping a lady on evening who discovered her deceased husband had divorced her twenty-five years earlier and had never bothered to tell her when they got back together after a six month separation. She was not happy, living with him unmarried and taking care of him in his final long illness. I was helping another young man when I noticed in census research (going back in time), that his race had gone from white to Mulatto. He didn’t know what the term meant, so I brought him up to snuff (I’m Native American which I quickly shared that with him). Last strange discovery was just a month ago. A man in my ward who once asked to “take notes” of a honest conversation I was having with him (rather impolite in my way of thinking), came for research. I directed him to FamilySearch and he found that his grandfather had married four women on the same date in 1893. He couldn’t believe it, his father had never mentioned it. I let him go on for a couple of minutes and then quietly told him to pull up their death dates. They were all young women who had died as teenagers. His old grandfather was just adding to his Celestial family. I smiled all the way home. It was after all, after the manifesto.
PS: Brian, we all knew you had the genes of a troublemaker. Sometimes the word gets out quickly…
May 21, 2010 at 9:10 am #230962Anonymous
GuestBrian, there’s a little known fact about the Johnstones, that is that many of them aren’t Johnstons from the Borders at all. When the MaGregors were banned from having that name, some of them became unrelated names like Skinner and Johnstone. Also some MacIain mistranslated their name as Johnstone (it should really be Johnson, if translated literally) May 22, 2010 at 12:01 am #230963Anonymous
GuestWell, it’s time to confess. My great great grandmother was a Johnson (Johnston in the census records). She is also pretty famous in the Sipsey Wilderness of the Bankhead Forest of northern Alabama. Famous enough that her tombstone keeps getting stolen (hate it when that happens). Also, the local folklore experts never entertain a gathering without telling several stories about “Aunt Jenny.” Please google the following: “Mountain feuds of Aunt Jenny Johnson and the Brooks boys.” I descend through her daughter Fanny and son-in-law Sam Baker, of “Sam Baker, Winston County’s gunfighter.”
Wyatt Earp’s daddy had it right. “Bloods blood and not much else matters.” Dang, could I be related to Brian Johnston?
May 22, 2010 at 12:18 am #230964Anonymous
GuestI bet most of us are related if ya go back enough and allow for enough “removal.”
May 22, 2010 at 9:35 am #230965Anonymous
GuestAll the American presidents are related, and the Mormon prophets, and of course have the Merovingian shape shifting reptilian bloodline. May 24, 2010 at 4:38 pm #230966Anonymous
GuestSamBee wrote:All the American presidents are related, and the Mormon prophets, and of course have the
Merovingian shape shifting reptilian bloodline.David Icke is certainly a colorful thinker
Personally, I love conspiracy theory. His book, I have to admit, was one that I had a hard time reading through completely. I’ve heard him speak on radio shows and he comes across as much more coherent. The Biggest Secret borders on the ranting of a true lunatic though, hehe. Fascinating trains of thought for sure.
June 7, 2010 at 5:57 pm #230967Anonymous
GuestThese are some quotes from an ancestor of mine, okay, not a direct ancestor, but certainly a relative!!! (No, he wasn’t Mormon, but as you can guess he was a churchman) Quote:Prayer is the uplifting of the heart to God, from Whom alone we obtain grace to avoid what is evil, and to do what is good, and every blessing that we enjoy. Without prayer, with which should always be joined praise and thanksgiving, it is impossible for any to live a Christian life. St Paul told us to “pray always”, and there is not a moment when we may not send up a short prayer to God, even without using any words. But we should have fixed times of prayer. At the beginning of each day, we should ask God’s blessing on the day commenced, and at the close of every day we should thank Him for mercies received, and ask pardon for sins committed. In the middle of the day, also we shall do well to make a practice of thinking about God, and saying some short prayer. Say your prayers kneeling.
😯 Do not only use prayers from a book, but also ask God in your own words to give you the help you most want, and tell Him in your own words of the sins you have committed. There is nothing that is not wrong in itself that you need to be afraid of asking, or that God will refuse to give you, if it be good for you. For CHRIST says, “Whatsoever ye shall ask the FATHER in My name, He will give it you.” -
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