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July 19, 2010 at 7:28 am #205221
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GuestOK well this may drag out a bit but I have a lot on my mind. I am a convert to the church, up until I found the church my life was a total mess, I was a gambling addict struggling with recovery from that, I had few friends as a result of that. I had kinda burned a LOT of bridges
I joined the church after making friends with a less active member on a chatroom, and jumped into it when I felt it was true
As the only member in my family, it was kinda tough, with the “sudden” change – no drinking and all that stuff, but family were (thankfully) very supportive.
Anyway that was about 4 years ago. Since then I have been through the temple, been sealed and am currently getting divorced (i wont go into the reasons why now – but lets just say I am divorcing her)
To get married – I moved to her area, had few friends AGAIN, and after making so many friends through the church in my home town – I suddenly felt very isolated so admitedly I kinda messed up because I kinda went off the rails as far as gambling is concerned – again (heck its an addiction) and she kinda held that over my head like a guillotine. The church leaders in that area were really helpful and supportive. BUt the other people kinda seemed judgemental.
I worked my backside off with the gambling issue – I am clear of that now for over 2 and a half years. (and did that without the church addiction groups – I went to GA instead and some people didnt like that)
Basically now – I am back home but inactive, a lot bothered me about the church –
OK If one part of the church is true – the rest must be right?
I cant feel right in the Temple – been through twice – and the 2nd time i went I noticed little changes – so I tried to find out why. Then i started finding out about ALL the changes over the time.
I wont go into too much detail on that here in an open forum because I made certain promises and as much as I feel that it may not be true – I still made the promise.
Temple, JS and the seer stones, 40 something year old marrying a 15 year old, (the polygamy itself doesnt bother me – just the age thing)
and the people in the area I moved to just – well, I dont quite know how to put this……judgemental, annoying and …to be frank not nice!
Now the church leaders say “the church is perfect the people arent” and I get that – I wasnt expecting perfection, just some courtesy from time to time
Well – thats how I felt about them THEN
now i realise just how much I was influenced by my soon to be ex wife.
Im wondering if it was her that I felt so bad with, because now I am away from her I feel better about myself again, even though Im not active at all.
BUT heres the thing. Any time I see anything about the church, SLC, or other members on TV i get a strange feeling, dunno if its a call back from the spirit (like church leaders would probably tell me) or if its just a whole reminiscing thing.
If I see missionarries out and about – I want to say hello (heck they are giving up 2 years of their life for something they beleive in – I respect that)
i dunno Im just so confused
July 19, 2010 at 4:17 pm #233442Anonymous
GuestWelcome!! I hope you find some answers to your questions here. I’m sorry you have felt so hurt by members around you. What a struggle this life is at times.
My best to you.
July 20, 2010 at 7:43 pm #233443Anonymous
GuestLostConfused wrote:…a lot bothered me about the church –
OK If one part of the church is true – the rest must be right?
I cant feel right in the Temple …I noticed little changes – so I tried to find out why. Then i started finding out about ALL the changes over the time.
Temple, JS and the seer stones, 40 something year old marrying a 15 year old, (the polygamy itself doesnt bother me – just the age thing)
and the people in the area I moved to just – well, I dont quite know how to put this……judgemental, annoying and …to be frank not nice!
Now the church leaders say “the church is perfect the people arent” and I get that – I wasnt expecting perfection, just some courtesy from time to time
i dunno Im just so confused
Yeah, a lot of these same exact things really bothered me about the Church too. I started to wonder if the Church is really as divine as they claim then why can’t they keep their story straight and get things right the first time? And some of the exclusive zero tolerance policies toward supposed “sinners” and the general lack of concern for less active members seemed completely un-Christian to me the more I thought about it. Oh well, I guess no human organization will ever be perfect and all you can do is take the bad with the good as long as it’s not too far out of balance for your taste.
July 20, 2010 at 7:48 pm #233444Anonymous
Guestthanks for the welcome – well that part about things being out of balance – thats exactly how I felt
I HATED feeling isolated.
ah well – on a road somewhere- I guess I just dont know where yet
July 21, 2010 at 4:39 am #233445Anonymous
GuestI think sometimes we focus on the things that bug us that we don’t want to allow ourselves to feel the good things, when they are right there for the taking. You wanna say hi to the missionaries….do it. It will make you feel good. You feel something(maybe even the spirit) … Let yourself feel it and recognize the good feelings, and learn from it the things that make you feel good and go after those things…whether the source is Mormonism or not. I think God wants us to live and experience things and pursue goodness.
I find I can skip church and feel just wonderful and close to god…and I have allowed myself to experience both things in my life…frustration at church and love for individuals at church.
I don’t think life is binary…all black or white, all right or all wrong, all true or al false, all good or all bad. It’s a mix of it all, and that provides spice to life.
Confusion can be exhausting, but it leads to growth and peace. I wish you peace, and welcome you to this forum! Thanks for joining.
July 21, 2010 at 2:50 pm #233446Anonymous
GuestLostConfused wrote:the people in the area I moved to just – well, I dont quite know how to put this……judgemental, annoying and …to be frank not nice!
Now the church leaders say “the church is perfect the people arent” and I get that – I wasnt expecting perfection, just some courtesy from time to time
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BUT heres the thing. Any time I see anything about the church, SLC, or other members on TV i get a strange feeling, dunno if its a call back from the spirit (like church leaders would probably tell me) or if its just a whole reminiscing thing.
Yeah. I know what you mean. If the religion doesn’t lead its members to be nice and happy and good, then just what does it do?
On the other hand, it sounds like, to you, the LDS religion still “feels” like the highest and best you know. I really believe that if that is true, you should be true to it. Always reach for the highest and never betray your mainest thing.
July 21, 2010 at 8:40 pm #233447Anonymous
Guestok that might be right – a LOT of what they teach does feel right, but there are some things that are kinda central to “Mormonism” (temple and JS etc) I do think Im in the right place here though – support seems REALLY good here
thanks again guys
July 22, 2010 at 1:47 am #233448Anonymous
GuestWell, I’m sure not saying that the LDS religion absolutely and universally isthe highest. I was just guessing that for you it seemed to be based on your saying “Any time I see anything about the church, SLC, or other members on TV i get a strange feeling.” If it isn’t the highest to you, you would probably not have those special fond feelings. I think your feelings would be neutral, negative, or generically affectionate. A lot of us would probably agree with me in saying to you that if you have a feeling something is amiss, why don’t you make a concerted effort to seek out of the best books wisdom and see where that leads you. My experience may be different than yours since you are a convert.
Joseph Campbell and the Power of MythThat one is a classic around here that you may find very inspirational WaldenBrother Perry talked of it in a recent conference talk, and many find it inspiring The Bhagavad GitaI’m partial to the Arnold translation and Chapters 12, 13, and 16 (I think) The Tao Te ChingSimply marvelous little ancient text. I like the Mitchell version. Alternate Bible translations(especially the Sermon on the Mount and the Parables, of course) can be consciousness expanding for an LDS The Gospel of Thomas, and the Didachevery early Christian documents Another possibility is you have not garnered from the LDS religion everything that you sense is yet there for you. It’s hard to say.
Tom
July 22, 2010 at 4:17 am #233449Anonymous
GuestQuote:A lot of us would probably agree with me in saying to you that if you have a feeling something is amiss, why don’t you make a concerted effort to seek out of the best books wisdom and see where that leads you.
I agree Tom, good suggestions!July 22, 2010 at 9:46 am #233450Anonymous
GuestSiddartha by Hermann Hesse (novel) -
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