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    6 months ago when I had another trial of faith I started wearing a blue shirt. I know, big deal. But to me it was a big deal.

    I woke up today looking for my blue shirt and not wanting to go to Church. I put it on, and started thinking about why this blue shirt thing was so important to me. I got honest with myself and felt it represented a form of rebellion against the status quo and a problem I had with feeling positive about local leadersa a while ago. I had other reasons — I got complements about the blue shirt from some women in the Ward, and also, I figured it would help keep me out of leadership for a while. The Blue Shirt was my personal Declaration of Independence.

    Today started thinking about how hard our leaders are working to teach the young men to wear white shirts and ties, to dress appropriately etcetera, and here I am, parading my blue shirt for all to see. Not even wearing a jacket (that would make the blue shirt less visible –just kidding). In a small way, that wasn’t helping the Young Men. I also thought about how in spite of my trial of faith, I’m still Mormonizing my life, attending with my kids, holding a calling, doing HT etcetera. Also how I could wear a white shirt for the reason of being a team player since I haven’t left the team. Inwardly still believing it’s a sort of “dumb” cultural value, but doing it anyway because that’s all part of being on the team. Just as wearing a sport’s uniform is part of being on the soccer team even though you might not like the color or logo.

    And finally, how I didn’t need to wear a blue shirt to declare my independence. My independence comes from my personal beliefs, my State 5 experiences, and even my eventual refusal of callings if they try to put me back in leadership.

    So, from now on, I’m a white shirt guy, and I feel no increase in angst as a result……

    #233797
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    So what does your decision say regarding the black shirt I wear on a regular basis (I do switch out with a gray shirt and a light yellow occasionally)? There have been a few stares and even a comment or two, and I have not been called forth to give the benediction of late. Probably some of my ward members figure its senility. I occasionally wear dark blue Levi’s and white tennis shoes as well (always with a nice sports coat and tie). Did you ever wonder if half the males showed up with colored shirts one week, what leadership would say (or not say)?

    There is an old saying, “When you are 25, you worry what folks think about you, when you are 50, you don’t give a damn what they think, when you are 75, you realize they never thought about you to begin with (ha!). I can say with complete conviction, I will not be called to a leadership position anytime soon in my dear ward. So far, no tears have wet my pillow…

    #233798
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    I alternate from white to blue. Keeps everyone wondering if I am in or out. ;)

    Honestly I am going through the same thing. My blue shirt is a mini form of rebellion. Sort of pathetic if you think about it. In Mormonism the best we can do to make a statement is wear a colored shirt. This lets us say I will not conform completely, but I am still here and attending.

    #233796
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    SD, while I don’t think what you did must be done by anyone else as part of their stage/state development, I am glad to read about it for your own growth. Whether or not this lasts is less important than the realization you reached about your own ability to make theses types of decisions for yourself – not just because of cultural pressure.

    I agreed without reservation to wear a white shirt, tie and coat when I was called into my current calling, because that is part of the requirement in this stake (unlike the last stake where I served in this calling) – but I do so only when I am in a meeting where I am identified directly with that calling. Iow, I dress that way on Sunday and to any official meetings that involve me in that calling. Otherwise, I wear whatever I feel comfortable wearing – or whatever I feel is appropriate to the gathering.

    I generally go HT in “business casual” attire (dress slacks and a collared or polo shirt); I attend most weekday ward activities in jeans and a t-shirt or polo shirt; I attended the Seminary in-service for teachers yesterday in a deep red shirt and tie; etc.

    I have no problem with the official explanation of why young men who participate in the administration of the sacrament should wear white shirts and ties, if possible. My only concern is when that very narrow request is “magnified” and mutated into the idea that all men should do the same, even in the administration of other Priesthood ordinances. Anything that builds a hedge about the law for no critical symbolic reason concerns me, even as I acquiesce and follow publicly in many cases.

    #233799
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    I love the thought process!

    You believed that you wore the blue shirt for you but really it was for “them”. You realized this and now “believe” you wear the white shirt for them but really it’s for you. Brilliant! And a great lesson in intent. We should always be aware of our intent. Therein lies the real battle.

    #233800
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    Awesome post. I have been wearing a white shirt with thin black stripes many weeks for the same reasons. I believe Heber J. Grant started the move to LDS business attire, and it has only become more restricted. I personally have a problem with the white shirt being the uniform of the priesthood, because that smacks of priestly vestments.

    I was actually in a bishopric for three and a half years and kept a full beard the whole time. I had a few people make snide comments, but no one in an official capacity called me on the carpet for it. I kept it clean and nicely trimmed. I do understand the reasons for being clean and well-groomed.

    #233801
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    George wrote:

    So what does your decision say regarding the black shirt I wear on a regular basis (I do switch out with a gray shirt and a light yellow occasionally)?

    Nothing really; the reasons I gave for wearing a white shirt were my own reasons for me. So, if wearing a black shirt reduces your angst regarding the Church, or helps you feel independence from the cultural values that you sometimes feel oppressive, or keeps you out of leadership according to your desires, or any other reason (such as bad laundry planning), that’s fine. I welcome people with colored shirts at Church. In fact, I may even hold a fireside some day where the entry fee is you have to be wearing a colored shirt!

    (just kidding on that last one). My bottom line is that I’m wearing the white short for reasons other than social expectations — they are my own reasons that speak to ME.

    By the way, my home teacher showed up last night in jeans and a t-shirt. I loved every second of it. I hope he does it again. I might even make it a requirement that if he home teaches me, he has to be wearing non-Sunday clothing!!!

    #233802
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    SD:

    “such as bad laundry planning” and “I may even hold a fireside some day where the entry fee is you have to be wearing a colored shirt!”

    Dang, outed again. I am such a geek when it comes to getting my shirts laundered prior to the Sabbath (though I like the mafia look – matching black tie, diamond stud pin).

    I love your idea regarding the fireside. If I ever hold one, it will be topic which will have folks staring, such as, HOW MUCH DID YOU CONTRIBUTE TO THAT LOSER PROPOSITION 8, or WHO WILL FOLLOW PRESIDENT JAMES J. STRANG AS PROPHET, SEER AND REVELATOR? I once taught a gospel doctrine class who had 120 people show up most weeks. We had to meet in the cultural hall. It was obviously pre-coordination days, when a instructor had vast agency in what direction to lead the discussion. I miss those days…

    #233803
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    I stick to my light khaki. No lie, last week the 2nd counselor asked me to bless the sacrament because “I was wearing a whitest type shirt.” Hmmm? I’m kind of like Spock – I’m okay if to keep them wondering “if I’m in or I’m out.” I guess last week I was “in.”

    #233804
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    When I wear my white golf shirt and 100% polyester tan slacks (I don’t do ties) to Sacrament meeting I feel like I’m poking everybody in the eye. But at the Valley Unitarian Universalist Congregation (my current coping sustenance), I feel like I fit in whether I am wearing a tie or flip-flops.

    #233805
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    This is what I was taught:

    If you are representing the priesthood or using priesthood you should wear a white shirt and tie. If you are preparing, blessing or passing the sacrament then a white shirt and tie would be required. There were so few of us in the Aaronic Priesthood that everyone needed to wear the proper attire so that they could pass the sacrament.

    If you are going home teaching it’s a good idea to have the white shirt. If you are giving a blessing it’s good to have a white shirt as well.

    Really though if you look at the scriptures you don’t really see anything about a white shirt and tie. D&C 20 doesn’t say anything about the Priest or Elder being in a white shirt and tie when blessing the sacrament.

    If the sacrament had been blessed by a priest and an Elder one dressed in yellow and the other in green the sacrament would still be valid.

    If Elders bless a sick child wearing yellow and green shirts instead of white that blessing is also valid.

    If the home teachers show up in Jeans and T shirt the lesson is still valid.

    The White shirt and tie has just become part of the religious culture. The White shirt and tie encourages a plain underacting reverence.

    A professional looking button down shirt that has some color added to it isn’t going to be too terribly distracting either.

    #233806
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    Just to be precise, as the resident parser:

    The Church **policy** that Elder Holland (right?) articulated is that the sacrament should be treated as a sacred ordinance like baptism and the temple ordinances, and, therefore, the Brethren **encouraged** those who administer and participate in that ordinance to wear a white shirt **if possible** in order to model the attire at baptism and in the temple worn to participate in those sacred ordinances. It is an attempt to encourage members to view the sacrament in the same way they view baptism and temple ordinances, as a direct result of seeing much of the membership move away from a reverence for the ordinance.

    All the other applications of the white shirt policy are extrapolations by individual leaders, no matter how those leaders present them. The idea that a white shirt and tie (and suit coat) is “the uniform of the Priesthood” is cultural, not doctrinal – and not even Church policy.

    #233807
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    If you ever served a Indian mission, and saw a half dozen young Apaches riding their burros across the desert to storm the church house, white shirts would be the least of your worries. I have great memories from my early days in the Lord’s church (not so much of late, in correlation structured times). I would knee with a humble man, in his Levi’s and worn boots, and bless the Sacrament any day.

    #233808
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    George wrote:

    I would knee with a humble man, in his Levi’s and worn boots, and bless the Sacrament any day.

    Exactly. As would I.

    #233809
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    I gave a blessing in my shorts, sandals and t-shirt last night in my home. I didn’t feel badly about it at all because it was the words I was speaking that mattered. If I was around TBM’s I would probably have put it on to avoid an uncomfortable situation, but in my own home, I will do as seems best.

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