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    … by Phillip R. Legg.

    The book is not flashy (nor is the author), and I’m guessing its publisher is linked to the CoC, of which Legg is a member.

    Legg is a fan of Oliver (as am I after reading the book), but I didn’t feel he was overly so. The presentation seems reasonably objective, and I certainly found it interesting.

    What I really liked about the book was that it presented Oliver in such a way that I could really empathize with him. In my view, he was the prototype of the StayLDS-er. Conflicted, confused, hurt, philosophical, but hanging on to the spiritual experiences that made him a believer. He never (as far as I was able to tell) lost his faith in those spiritual experiences in spite of his shock at finding out certain unpleasant things, and his betrayal at the hands of those he thought should have been his friends.

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    That seems like it would be an interesting read. I’ve had interest lately to read the perspectives of people, especially those like Oliver, that were key figures but a little more removed from the mythology (the second tier characters in the stories of our foundation).

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    In my view, he was the prototype of the StayLDS-er. Conflicted, confused, hurt, philosophical, but hanging on to the spiritual experiences that made him a believer.

    This is EXACTLY how I feel. There are times I even wish I never had the spiritual experiences so I don’t feel so bound to continue down this path. Oliver was excommunicated for some reason, wasn’t he, and then returned to be rebaptized at a later time, correct?

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    Yes, he was excommunicated in 1838, and rebaptized in, I think, 1848 in Winter Quarters. Here are the charges against him. I think I might be guilty of some of them:

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    First–For persecuting the brethren by urging on vexatious law suits against them, and thus distressing the innocent.

    Second–For seeking to destroy the character of President Joseph Smith, Jun., by falsely insinuating that he was guilty of adultery.

    Third–For treating the Church with contempt by not attending meetings.

    Fourth–For virtually denying the faith by declaring that he would not be governed by any ecclesiastical authority or revelations whatever, in his temporal affairs.

    Fifth–For selling his lands in Jackson county, contrary to the revelations.

    Sixth–For writing and sending an insulting letter to President Thomas B. Marsh, while the latter was on the High Council, attending to the duties of his office as President of the Council, and by insulting the High Council with the contents of said letter.

    Seventh–For leaving his calling to which God had appointed him by revelation, for the sake of filthy lucre, and turning to the practice of law.

    Eighth–For disgracing the Church by being connected in the bogus business, as common report says.

    Ninth–For dishonestly retaining notes after they had been paid; and finally, for leaving and forsaking the cause of God, and returning to the beggarly elements of the world, and neglecting his high and holy calling, according to his profession.

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    I have long identified with Oliver Cowdery. IMO, he got a bum rap all around. JS was a fairly poor judge of character and took Oliver for granted. Had he stayed a little closer to Oliver’s influence, perhaps Oliver would have persuaded him differently on the polygamy thing.

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    I always thought he was an annoying twit, but I suppose that’s because of how he’s portrayed in church films. Not sure where else I would have got that from.

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    Well, I agree wholeheartedly with the charge against him of being a lawyer. (just kidding, sorry if I offended any lawyers).

    It sounds like he was fixated on his temporal wealth, by:

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    For virtually denying the faith by declaring that he would not be governed by any ecclesiastical authority or revelations whatever, in his temporal affairs.

    By also retaining notes after they were paid off.

    Selling his lands to keep the money.

    Did he ever make a statement recanting his claims that JS was an adulterer before being rebaptized?

    It also seems like back in the early days the Church was even more authoritarian than it is today. For example, citing it as a charge for excommunication because Oliver didn’t continue in the calling he’d been appointed by revelation, or because he sold his lands rather than consecrating them. Today, you can refuse callings if you want and also refuse to pay tithing, and there are no consequences.

    One factor that I’m sure entered into the breadth and depth of these charges was the fact that he was publicly attacking the Church.

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    The 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 7th, 8th, and 9th charges were sustained. The 4th and 5th charges were rejected, and the 6th was withdrawn.

    So much was going on at the time, it’s hard to know which of these charges had any basis in fact, and which were politically motivated. Oliver did not attend his disciplinary action, but responded to the charges in a letter. It’s clear he felt he was justified in what he did or didn’t do.

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    This sounds like a really interesting book. I’ll have to put it on my already long “to read” list. I agree with Hawkgrrrl–I think Oliver got a bum rap.

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    SilentDawning wrote:


    It sounds like he was fixated on his temporal wealth …


    For whatever it’s worth, he donated a sizable sum to the building of the KIrtland temple at a time when he was struggling financially. More likely, Oliver was fixated on the personal liberties so recently codified in the constitution, and in particular on a rigid separation of ecclesiastical and civil authority. I think he also displayed some passive-aggressive tendencies … another reason I like him.

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    doug wrote:

    SilentDawning wrote:


    It sounds like he was fixated on his temporal wealth …


    For whatever it’s worth, he donated a sizable sum to the building of the KIrtland temple at a time when he was struggling financially. More likely, Oliver was fixated on the personal liberties so recently codified in the constitution, and in particular on a rigid separation of ecclesiastical and civil authority. I think he also displayed some passive-aggressive tendencies … another reason I like him.

    From the PBS documentary on the Mormon’s, this lack of separation between Church and State is what led to JS being arrested — the documentary said JS was mayor and ordered the destruction of a printing press that printed dispersions on JS land deals related to the Church, sexual habits related to doctrine, etcetera (Nauvoo Expositor?).

    The Church history books published by the Church said JS was arrested for “disturbing the peace”; I wasn’t aware he actually ordered destroying a printing press however — in a land that values free speech, I see how that might bother people…..

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    I always like Oliver for the fact that he was the second Elder of this dispensation and that he was trying to temporally improve himself, like we are admonished to by the brethren; to get more education and to better ourselves financially so we can serve better in the kingdom. One thing I will always admire about him is the fact that he did come back. Oliver’s attitude gives me the strength to continue on even though times get rough.

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