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I was browsing through Butters’ thread on the afterlife which is very thought provoking. http://www.staylds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2041http://www.staylds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2041” class=”bbcode_url”> I didn’t want to threadjack, so I created this new thread. In the spirit of Butters’ avatar, and in hopes of sharing some humor (we should laugh at references of our own religion sometimes, I think), I wanted to share some summaries about a South Park episode many of you are familiar with.
I understand some may not find this reverent or even funny, so if you don’t find some humor in South Park, you may want to stop reading this post now.
:think: I wish South Park wasn’t so crude, but I divulge myself sometimes because I find there are sometimes clever points buried in the crude and silly humor. This one in particular is about South Park kids starting a church so they can live in sinlessness, and pokes fun of religion a bit, but more specifically, about the concepts of Heaven and Hell, and God and the Devil.
Quote:EPISODE 58 – July 2000[Scene starts in Hell]
The Hell Director welcomes a group of new arrivals to Hell. Some of them protest that they shouldn’t be in Hell because they were true to their faiths (one man in Hell was a devout Protestant and another was a Jehovah’s Witness, even though the man who said this was wearing an Army uniform. Military service is strictly forbidden among Jehovah’s Witnesses) and did nothing sinful, but the Hell Director reveals that the only religious people allowed in Heaven are the Mormons.
“The Mormons!”, declares the Hell Director. “Yes, the Mormons was the correct answer!”Satan wonders if he should be with Saddam, whom he finds sexually attractive, or Chris, who is kinder and nicer.
Satan goes and sees God in Heaven which is occupied solely by Mormons (aside from God who professes to be a Buddhist)…
Even after Satan explains his intent to be single, Saddam continues to harass him. The Devil then angrily makes a hole in Saddam’s chest, revealing that he has “Asked an old friend for a favor”. Saddam is forced to go live up in Heaven with the Mormons. This, to him, is Hell.
Ok, so that may be a little humor and poking fun of things…but something that usually makes humor work are a little bit of truth, and maybe some good points that make you think about what you believe in a less than serious way.
What do you think about this notion that to some people, what we might think of would be heaven, would really be their hell? Does everyone really want to be in the Mormon Celestial Kingdom?
First I need to make a confession. I have only ever seen 2 full episodes of Southpark and neither had Butters in it. I didn’t know he existed until after I googled Butters and his image popped up. I liked the description of him so I chose him for my avatar. I chose the name Butters because I was similar to my name “Butterscotch” I used on another forum but didn’t want to be associated to in this one if someone happened into it.
I do enjoy Southpark (all 2 episodes I have seen), but since I don’t really watch TV and we have never had cable, I will most likely never watch more of it. I am sorry if this dishonors my avatar in any way.
Now for the real thread.
I completely believe that my heaven is different from any other mormon. I don’t want to have babies in heaven
😮 . My version of heaven (whenever I thought about it) was me over a microscope learning all kinds of new things. With giant books around me that told me the answers to some of earths history.Honestly, my version of Hell
ISthe mormon version of heaven. The only thing that I would say is similar is the family being together for eternity. I would love it if I could live on the same heavenly street as my siblings. No dishonor, Butters…I didn’t mean to call you out… I like your avatar! 🙂 I just think that some people even like to make heaven on earth, in their home. Perhaps heaven is what we make it?
I just have no idea anymore what I would like heaven to be like. To try and use my earthly experience to project out into eternity is for me a useless endevor. I just believe in the notion that you are pretty much going to end up going and doing whatever you are best adapted to do. Hopefully it involves friends and family and lots of exploring and learning. Cadence wrote:I just have no idea anymore what I would like heaven to be like. To try and use my earthly experience to project out into eternity is for me a useless endevor. I just believe in the notion that you are pretty much going to end up going and doing whatever you are best adapted to do. Hopefully it involves friends and family and lots of exploring and learning.
Do you pretty much reject the idea of the lake of fire and brimstone…where basically everyone there knows they are there to suffer for eternity?I love that episode of South Park. Watched it just this week. Oh by the way Buttars, you mentioned that you use a user name of buttarscotch on other blogs. Maybe you know this and I missed it, but the Buttars on South Park is actually named,
Buttars Scotch.🙂 I have no doubt that one person’s CK is another TK. Seriously, I have NO DESIRE at all to live in the CK that I was taught my whole life with all the other 85% of the TBMish mormons. I felt bad for Sadam in the South Park episode.
If there is a CK for us 15%, than I might consider that.
You know the problem I have with Mormon heaven – no craft beer and tea. How can one possibly think that would be a good way to spend eternity?
🙂 Quote:Beer is proof that God loves man. – Ben Franklin
cwald wrote:
Oh by the way Buttars, you mentioned that you use a user name of buttarscotch on other blogs. Maybe you know this and I missed it, but the Buttars on South Park is actually named,Buttars Scotch.🙂
I had no idea! See what you guys teach me?
One of the reasons I actually like the classic Mormon afterlife description is that, in some way, each “degree of glory” is “heaven” – immortal existence in the presence of a “God” with people who are similar to you but not exactly alike. I like the idea that we will be wherever we would be the happiest. Having said that, I also don’t want to be in a place where we have babies eternally. Fortunately, I don’t have to believe that about the Celestial Kingdom. In fact, I can think it’s flat-out stupid and illogical and still be a believing Mormon. Spiritual children is one concept I really love; pregnancy and babies forever is not. They are not the same thing at all, thank goodness.
Heber13 wrote:
Do you pretty much reject the idea of the lake of fire and brimstone…where basically everyone there knows they are there to suffer for eternity?I most definitely do, H13. Hell is darkness and separation, pure and simple. Take despair and anger away, replace it with faith and love, and light pierces the darkness. See the near death experiences of Howard Storm and George Rodonaia for starters.
South Park stole that joke from elsewhere. I heard the same one on a comedy show in the late 1980s before South Park was ever thought of, the only real difference being that the Jews were right. (Satan goes “Are there any Christians here?” and they stick their hands up, and he says, “Well, I’m afraid the Jews were right.”)
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