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    Obviously by some of my previous posts I’ve been pretty pissed off lately. I apologise for where I’ve sounded too harsh.

    I just feel like the two parts of me are in a pretty big fight right now. I think the reasonable side of me wants to let stuff go and not be so worked up about life. Then I get a lot of unreasonable emotions. I guess I can feel relaxed and angry all at the same time. It’s like being worked up about petty things and feeling on the edge of enlightenment at once. How do I reason with the emotional side of myself?

    I’ve been trying to ease my anger at everything by thinking about the concept of creating our own realities. I can’t be so mad at the world or the way the Church does something if I am the creator. Then I guess I started putting together all these different ideas in my head. I thought about time on earth in our bodies and how it’s suppose to be a learning experience. I thought about godhood and creation. I guess I can’t really explain how it all seemed to make since for a split second. It always seems weird when I don’t really completely accept so many of these concepts, then one of them just clicks.

    Then I wondered, is a god any more perfect than us?

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    Often the LDS church talks of this concept of God as our literal father and us as his children. I have a few kids, but I can guarantee you that I am not a perfect father. The ways I am better than my children are generally just in ways that come from experience and patience learned through living. I think the same goes for all fathers. So if we buy the God is our literal father, then he is God and exalted above us just because he has been around the block.

    Now that sounds blasphemous to me to re-read as we are taught that god is perfect and omnipotent, but was it always that way?

    Just another thought from my overactive mind, let’s say you make it to the upper echelon of the Celestial kingdom that many of us were taught about. You become a literal god and you decide to make a planet and plan of salvation for your heavenly offspring. How do you know what to do? It’s obvious even our God wasn’t sure if we consider the 2 opposing plans and resulting war in heaven.

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    It seems to me that there is plenty of evidence that god isn’t perfect. Why did he make us so screwed up? If he is perfect and has so much power why can’t he make us perfect from the beginning? Sure sin gives us the opportunity to learn, but if we started out perfect too there would be nothing left to learn.

    Brown wrote:

    You become a literal god and you decide to make a planet and plan of salvation for your heavenly offspring. How do you know what to do?


    Some how this just still seems to dovetail in with the non-lds belief that most of us are capable of effecting how our world works. It seems like a baby step to learning how to use the powers you will have as a god.

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    I have faith that God is perfect, and omnipotent, and omniscient, and omnibenevolent. I think that God can have the ability to make us perfect from the beginning, and loves us enough NOT to make us perfect…and that makes sense to me.

    What a perfect test this life is…complex enough to stump the very brightest, and fulfilling enough that even less than bright souls like mine still have hope it is worth it to keep trying to figure it out.

    The complexity allows for multiple factors to influence us, and we are emotional beings. Accept that and realize there is a place for reasoning, and a place for emotions, and there is a place for spirituality, and there is a place for experience by just doing things and learning it trial and error. Its all good.

    Pickles, to see your emotion come out in your posts…I love it. It is never boring! That’s a good thing. I also respect Cadence for his ability to act Vulcan-like. That is a great example for me. And his straight forward thoughts stimulate my thinking, and that is not boring.

    In my life, I think wisdom comes from accepting the different parts of me (reason, emotions, spirit, experience) and trying to balance them at different times and in different circumstances, to learn when some are more appropriate tools than others, and trying to keep them all from fighting against each other, but working with each other to help me make decisions that lead to my peace of mind. Referring to Orson’s tagline, I embrace paradox.

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    Perhaps god is not perfect and never expected mankind to make that claim. Perhaps he is “COMPLETE”, much like he asks us to become. See Matt 5:48 (footnote)

    Now what does that mean? Well, we probably need an entire thread just for that discussion and the many interpretations we would get.

    This scripture was used in youth SS Sunday, with the Stake Leadership in attendance. I told my kids that it is the worst scripture in the entire Bible, and the least understood. Of course the stake folks cringed – but after I discussed the issue with the class, I think they cooled their jets. If there is one thing that JS did correctly and “restored” was, correcting this verse in his translation of the bible. Kudos JS.

    I even used the quote that somebody on this board has in their signature line.

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    “I tried the whole perfection thing and it didn’t take. I’m done with it.”

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