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June 23, 2011 at 4:49 pm #206028
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GuestHey everyone! I just wanted to let you all know that I received my mission call last night… 🙂 I know that some of you will scoff at my decision, but I hope you can be supportive. Anyways, I have been called to serve in an Asian 3rd world country. It will be a few months before I leave, and I wanted to be sure I’m at the top of my game when I actually go. If you’re new, and curious as to why I want to serve a mission, please read my introduction thread here: .http://www.staylds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2481http://www.staylds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2481” class=”bbcode_url”> I’m excited to finally have my call, and know where I’ll be spending the next two years, but I’m also a little anxious and afraid at the same time. From what I’ve read so far, it sounds like a pretty dangerous place.
😯 My reason for this thread is to hopefully gain insight and advice from all of you. I admire your opinions, and really want to know what you wished you had known prior to serving a mission (for those of you who have). Please don’t try to persuade me into not serving a mission
🙄 , because I’ve already settled the issue with myself and I will be going.:think: June 23, 2011 at 5:41 pm #244670Anonymous
GuestI don’t think anyone here will scoff. We’re not into that. If someone does, I’ll deliver a cyber-slap upside their heads. 😈 I’m excited for you. My wife and I leave on Saturday to pick up our oldest son from his mission, and he has said more than once that it was the best decision he ever made – and it was his decision, totally.
I served in Japan, so I’m sure that’s not where you’re going.
🙂 However, I LOVED getting to know the Asian people. It was a truly wonderful experience, as difficult as it was for the first few months as I struggled to learn the language well enough to understand and be understood. Having to do so was the best thing for me, since I truly think I would have gravitated toward intellectualization if I had served an English-speaking mission.June 23, 2011 at 6:00 pm #244671Anonymous
GuestOld-Timer wrote:I don’t think anyone here will scoff. We’re not into that. If someone does, I’ll deliver a cyber-slap upside their heads.
😈 I second the “emotion”.
What did I wish I had’ve known?
1. The importance of learning to create a spiritual atmosphere in the discussion. That’s what converts if the people are humble and spiritual. Learn how to consciously express love, share spiritual experiences, use scripture, testify, music, and describe sacrifices people have made for truth, and also, rely on prayer.
2. Learn when to drop an investigator. I hung on to mine too long in the beginning. Toward the end, I would go by their house the day before our next appointment with a reminder sticky note on their door. If they didn’t keep the appointment, and didn’t return the phone call afterwards, then they were off my list.
3. Avoid the situation where you teach the investigator to “GO AWAY AND PRAY ABOUT IT”. Work on creating the spiritual experience while you are with them so you can recognize the spirit with them, and point out the development of testimony.
4. Before you go, read “How Full is Your Bucket” available at Amazon. It describes the importance of making interactions with others as positive as possible, to fill their bucket. Draw members to you with your positivity and your kindness. I found most of my baptisms that stuck had member involvement, so their involvement is very important.
5. Figure out who the missionary minded people are in the ward and work with them. Get their confidence and invest in building good relationships with them. Don’t waste time trying to turn non-missionary-minded members into gospel salespeople. Develop the missionary minded ones. If they have an entrepreneural job, or a sales position, they might be good candidates for member missionaries.
6. Get the new move-in list if your Ward has one, and visit the heck out of that list. I turned up more referrals for missionaries that way than any other method when I was a High Priest Group Leader. People who move into the Ward are experiencing new things and tend to be more open. Also, keep an eye out for non-member people who have moved into an area (in American, evidenced by sold signs on lawns, or even members who say someone new has moved in). These people tend to be more open-minded about their surroundings, and will also be more receptive to a welcome to the neighbour hood visit with Church woven into it.
7. Conquer your fear. Don’t be afraid to talk about baptism, foreshadow baptism by saying “you are going to want to be baptized after you get a testimony”. “Given the testimony you’re feeling, wee think you should be considering baptism soon…” etcetera. Invite when the Spirit is present and smile when you invite people to do things.
8. Most of all, love the people, your companion etcetera.
9. Keep a good journal — mine pulled me out of less activity once in my life. The full-time missionary perspective can be uplifiting to the YOU 20 years into the future.
10. Learn to use the commitment pattern:
http://www.redmondfamily.com/Family-Resources/Missionary-Resources/Commitment-Pattern-Chart And so ends my advice, taken from my memory as a young, enthusiastic missionary…that was how I looked at it back then!
Congratulations — remember, my advice was for a North American Mission, so if you’re in Asia things might be different culturally, and this stuff might need to be modified. But this is the best advice I can give.
June 23, 2011 at 8:09 pm #244672Anonymous
GuestNo scoffing…just congrats and respect. Well done. There may be times mission life is hard, most of those times were when I took my eye off the goal, and saw the obstacles in my way.
My mission was the best experience of my life.
My advice:
– don’t try to be someone you are not. Be yourself as a missionary, just be your best self. Some people tried putting on the name tag and then transform themselves into some superhuman missionary teacher… But many times this leads to internal conflict. Just be yourself, and remember the Lord called you, just as you are.
– keep a sense of humor and have fun. It is a once in a lifetime experience. Fully experience it.
– Love the people. No mission rules or spiritual pressures will help keep you as happy as just opening your heart and loving people, regardless of their choices.
– Finally, write your mom, diligently.
I’m excited for you!
June 24, 2011 at 12:30 am #244673Anonymous
GuestCandleLight25 wrote:Hey everyone! I just wanted to let you all know that I received my mission call last night…It will be a few months before I leave, and I wanted to be sure I’m at the top of my game when I actually go…My reason for this thread is to hopefully gain insight and advice from all of you. I admire your opinions, and really want to know what you wished you had known prior to serving a mission (for those of you who have). Please don’t try to persuade me into not serving a mission…because I’ve already settled the issue with myself and I will be going.
Congratulations and good luck. The main thing I wish I would have known is that what some mission presidents consider to be success like raw numbers aren’t really as important as they think. For example, if new members aren’t really comfortable and happy with the Church then there’s a good chance they will quickly become inactive anyway. The LDS lifestyle and doctrines don’t necessarily appeal to everyone. I spent a lot of time stressed out that we needed to baptize as many as people possible and if not then I thought it was my fault for not being good enough. Now I think it would be better to simply focus on making the most of the experience and trying learn from it and make a positive difference to those you work with without worrying too much about all the salesmanship.
June 24, 2011 at 12:43 am #244674Anonymous
GuestOne thing to really take advantage of is the two hours of study a day. I would make sure you use it and get in the habit of providing yourself with spiritual experiences each day. They call a mission a spiritual greenhouse, and I think the scriptures, the time alone, and the prayer and reading in those two hours are the solar panels. June 24, 2011 at 7:13 am #244675Anonymous
GuestWhat’s her name? Is she beautiful? Of course I’m guessing here, but I ran said marathon once. I even came home and married her, fathered five wonderful kids. If I’m totally crazy, please accept my apologies… and enjoy a foreign people and culture. June 24, 2011 at 9:44 am #244676Anonymous
GuestThanks for the tips everyone! Please keep them coming! Once again, I appreciate the warm affection from all of you. George wrote:What’s her name? Is she beautiful? Of course I’m guessing here, but I ran said marathon once. I even came home and married her, fathered five wonderful kids. If I’m totally crazy, please accept my apologies… and enjoy a foreign people and culture.
George, I think you are a bit mistaken. I am not going on a mission for anyone except myself and the people I’ll be serving.
June 24, 2011 at 12:38 pm #244677Anonymous
GuestCongratulations! This will be an awesome adventure for you — spiritually and culturally. I lived in Korea for a year as a soldier. I was a Korean linguist, and worked with Korean troops on a daily basis. It was a great experience diving into an Asian culture like that. I served my mission before that in Germany though. Asian languages are really tough for native English speakers to learn, but it is worth the effort. It’s hard to explain how much you will learn about yourself and your own culture when you start to learn a different language and culture. We don’t see all the things we take for granted, and it’s easier to see the mechanics of how we think after learning how other people think (which is closely tied to language).
So many great recommendations already, I couldn’t agree more with what has already been said.
1. LOVE PEOPLE! Ok. Others already said that, but it can’t be repeated too often. People listen to WHAT you have to say, but only after they know that you care about them.
2. Do what you think is right, and don’t get wrapped up in the numbers games. Know and deeply internalize that you are doing good, if you are preaching the Gospel and sharing its light. If you are not, fair enough. Be better the next day. Just don’t buy into the negativity that can sometimes develop in some missions that develop a culture of pressure and guilt for results. Maybe you won’t ever experience that, but it has happened often enough to be aware of it. I served in a mission that had that culture, and it was really hard on a lot of missionaries. (especially in a European mission, where baptism are not normally high).
3. Fully immerse yourself in the language and culture as much as possible!
Study the language in the morning along with your spiritual studies. I bought religious books in German when I was a missionary. I had several translations of the Bible (how could I not? Germany in the birthplace of this). I read an entire adult Catholic Catechism book in German. Those are just examples. It’s really hard at first, and takes a lot of determination. But you will be a MUCH better missionary if you are comfortable and natural communicating in your country’s language, and are natural with their customs. Not only that, you will be very thankful later post-mission because fluency in an Asian language and culture is a very valuable business skill.
4. Go visit as many cultural and historical places as you can get away with.
Go there on p-day. Make side-stops when going to and from regional zone meetings. Take lots of pictures. You can talk to people about the Gospel too along the way. I wasn’t technically supposed to do a lot of that as a missionary, but I am glad I did anyway. Love the culture, live the culture, breathe the culture.
5. Be you!
You are special. You will be able to share the Gospel with people like no other different person can. I know you will be wearing a quasi-uniform, but just be you and love people.
6. Don’t argue with people about the Gospel and try to persuade them in with clever debate.
I got into this as a missionary. I regret it a little now, looking back. I was not the message, the Spirit is the messenger. Perhaps it was also the country and culture where I served. Europeans have been arguing about Christianity for almost 2,000 years. Heck, they fought wars over it. But looking back, I don’t see that it did much good except provide entertainment for people who liked to argue religion and philosophy. The people who want the message and will benefit from it are not the ones who want to meet with you and debate for weeks and months. Spiritual conversion are greater than intellectual conversions.
That’s all I can think of for now. I am excited for you!
June 24, 2011 at 1:56 pm #244678Anonymous
GuestI think this is great. It might be better if more people went into the mission field like you, where you’ve seen the two sides of the coin and have made an informed decision about what is right for you. It sure beats naivety! June 25, 2011 at 2:05 am #244679Anonymous
GuestSilentDawning wrote:Old-Timer wrote:I don’t think anyone here will scoff. We’re not into that. If someone does, I’ll deliver a cyber-slap upside their heads.
😈 I second the “emotion”.
This is totally inappropriate, even “in jest”, and I am calling you out for it. The culture of violence is wrong. The culture of authoritarianism is wrong. It has no place in an enlightened society large or small.
June 25, 2011 at 2:53 am #244680Anonymous
GuestAgreed, Tom, about the culture. It’s a good thing I don’t hit anyone in any way irl. So, thanks for the cyber Zen slap – a slap without a slap. (Calling me out on it is cool – as long as you allow me to call you out on your call out.)
June 25, 2011 at 11:27 am #244681Anonymous
GuestTom, I don’t think he meant it that way. If I thought for a second Ray was being authoritarian or serious I would have not made my Motown reference as a show of support. I think our overriding goal was to show CAndle this is a safe place to post about the mission. However, I do see your perspective, and given our collective affinity for symbolism and the implications of words (something that intellectuals tend to attach importance to). Perhaps we were careless in that respect.
June 25, 2011 at 12:27 pm #244682Anonymous
GuestI wish I would have learned to not be so keyed up all the time about the mission rules. It sent me into a funk every time I or my companion had some minor infraction. I should have learned to enjoy my mission more, it would have made me more effective. As it was I was more concerned about the rules than I was about teaching. Looking back on it it seems silly but at the time I was big into obedience. June 25, 2011 at 2:53 pm #244683Anonymous
GuestI have found that it isn’t difficult to be obedient as the default, allow exceptions when exceptions are needed and love the people you are teaching and serving – IF you are aware and striving to live that type of balance. It’s the awareness that’s important. That’s my advice about the mission rules: Follow them almost always; make exceptions when you believe strongly that they are for the well-being of yourself and/or those you are teaching; don’t ever let the exceptions become the rule; focus FAR more on the people than any programs. “Preach My Gospel” allows missionaries to custom-teach people, and that is a wonderful blessing.
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