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We’ll I have to admit this was kind of funny: http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/tebow/1374394/#.Tu3wyUHLdus.facebook That wasn’t kind of funny. That was hilarious. Thanks for the laugh.
Thanks Ray, I actually thought so too, but I play more reservered now as I am always amazed at how people take things so differently. For example. I made a post to a link on my facebook recently with this song that I loved when my daughter was in the lds Mutual program: http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/tebow/1374394/#.Tu3wyUHLdus.facebook Walk tall, your a daughter. its called. I always cried when I heard that song because my daughter was bi-polar and always in trouble and I wanted her to know who she was. Now, I no longer cry when I hear the song because she does know who see is.
Anyway, I got some good responses, especially from my daughter who is no longer Mormon. But today a lady from my Nazerene church named Yvonne, replied with “I thought it was creepy and that she saw it end with from the CJCoflds. My friend Steve, replied to her that that was rude and she replied back with:
“No it’s in truth! Don’t market the Lds cult to me!!”
and then with:
“Hell does exist and you will never be a God
Then Steve replied back with:
Now you’re just sounding immature. There are Christ-like ways to express a difference of belief. (Bridget, you can delete posts from your Wall that detract from the spirit of what you were sharing.)”
So, I had to write Yovnne privately the following:
Yvonne, I do not want to get into some big discussion or argument on facebook over the song I posted. Even though I am no longer in the lds faith does not mean everything in the lds church is bad or wrong. I was raised in it all my life and served as a missionary for them for two years in Austria. It helped make me the person I am today ( a loving, caring, honest, good person) as many lds people are. That song had great signifcance for me with my daughter and I wanted her to know she was a daughter of God and to stand tall. God told me through personal revelation that He works through all churches and all people in these churches are His children. There is good and bad in all, so I do not put down any church. God leads people to different churches at different times. He lead me to the Nazerene church now but he also led me to the 7th day Adventist church at one time. Hope you understand where I am coming from.
btw. Yvonne is the woman in my naxzerene bible study who said that homosexuality is the only abomination God hates. People are crazy and it kind of upset me.
People make sense out of the world in whatever way they can. That’s as charitably as I can see it. Back to the video:
:clap: I showed it to my kids, since my wife is at a play in which one of our daughters is acting. They loved it all – but especially the Mormonism reference at the end.
loved the SNL!!! bridget_night wrote:Hell does exist and you will never be a God
Sounds like Yvonne is speaking from issues unrelated to the song. I read “Walk tall, you’re a daughter of God” twice and it doesn’t talk about hell or becoming a God. I thought your response was measured and respectful.
Who would have thought SNL would patch up the rough spots in my testimony once and for al!!! Now I can deregister my STayLDS account!!! Actually, they have featured Christ a few times on SNL…I never know how to take ti when they depict him that way. However, I did find it funny. Particularly the Mormonism reference at the end!!!
Hilarious. My son just called to ask if I’d seen it and if I could save it and send it to his brother who is currently on a mission. I said I’d see what I could do.
I read today that Pat Robertson got his panties in a wad over the skit. Some people just can’t take a joke. I think we’re failing miserably if we can’t laugh at ourselves. Amen, Bruce – but now I have to go scrub my brain out with strong soap. That image . . . :wtf: 😯 Bill Maher apparently said some really mean things about Tebow after the winning steak stopped. I understand Bill has a chip on his shoulder about religion, but if Tebow can help give just one desperate person a reason to have hope – that would be more than many celebrities and sports stars have accomplished. I’m sure Bill would see that as false hope, but is nihilism really the answer? I thought the following was interesting and hilarious: Neither Rick Perry nor Tim Tebow has won any contest after Perry labled himself the Tebow of the Iowa caucuses.
😆 :clap: 😆 :clap: 😆 :clap: 😆 :clap: Roy wrote:Bill Maher apparently said some really mean things about Tebow after the winning steak stopped. I understand Bill has a chip on his shoulder about religion, but if Tebow can help give just one desperate person a reason to have hope – that would be more than many celebrities and sports stars have accomplished. I’m sure Bill would see that as false hope, but is nihilism really the answer?
Roy, I saw the same thing. I posted a YouTube link on another thread about how Maher talks about religion…check it out…http://www.staylds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2919http://www.staylds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2919” class=”bbcode_url”> I loved this sketch. We’ve been having a discussion about it over at Wheat & Tares (well, as part of a bigger discussion teed up by shenpa warrior): http://www.wheatandtares.org/2012/01/03/lawnmower-god-helped-me-find-my-wallet/ The discussion is about how much God intervenes, why he does or doesn’t, and what our view of that says about us / how it impacts us. I tend to be more on the non-intervene side. I have family members who are very heavy on the intervene side. Sometimes that’s good (they are grateful and optimistic as a result). Sometimes that is bad (they are entitled or feel they’ve earned things or don’t look at the real root causes of both the good and bad things in their lives).
Heber13 wrote:Roy, I saw the same thing. I posted a YouTube link on another thread about how Maher talks about religion…check it out…
Yeah, unfortunately even if Maher was able to abolish organized religion – I don’t imagine life in general getting any better. Perhaps certain religiously motivated atrocities would be prevented, but what other “unintended consequences” would it set in motion?
hawkgrrrl wrote:The discussion is about how much God intervenes, why he does or doesn’t, and what our view of that says about us / how it impacts us. I tend to be more on the non-intervene side. I have family members who are very heavy on the intervene side. Sometimes that’s good (they are grateful and optimistic as a result). Sometimes that is bad (they are entitled or feel they’ve earned things or don’t look at the real root causes of both the good and bad things in their lives).
A few quotes from the discussion…
Quote:Rather, I think they’re about wanting to feel like you matter to deity—that deity takes notice of you. If finding your keys after praying about it can be attributed to deity, then the “logical” conclusion is that deity cared enough about you and your particular problem to take care of it,
Quote:Great point – wanting to feel that you matter, that someone bigger and stronger “gets” you… being aware that God is aware of what you’re aware of, that is powerful. I had not thought of that in the case of the Car Keys, but it makes sense! Thank you. That is something we all need.
I agree wholeheartedly with these statements. That is why I identify so much with the concept of “the weeping God of Mormonism.” If God doesn’t change the events of my life, but cares enough to weep over my pain – that brings me comfort. I know that my stillborn daughter matters to (and is known by) my Heavenly Father. If that means I must logically sacrifice God’s superlatives of being Omnipotent or Omniscient, then so be it. What matters is that I matter. Determining why I matter or accurately describing this being to whom I matter, is a distant secondary.
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