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    John Dehlin interviewed Jana Riess on Mormons Stories and asked about how she felt about the Book of Mormon and the Book of Abraham. I transcribed part of the interview at my blog, but I thought Jana gave a really interesting response concerning a Mormon Midrash. I thought I would post it here and see how everyone felt about it.

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    Jana Riess, “we need to have a tradition of midrash. We need to have a tradition where we can look at a prophet in the way that Jews have looked at prophets of old and say, ‘this is a midrash’ on a revelation, or this is a midrash on an earlier work of scripture.”

    John, “What does that word mean?”

    Jana, “Midrash, well it’s basically any expanded teaching. I don’t know what the exact definition would be, but an expanded teaching is something where in midrashim, you are taking a core text and then thinking about it cosmically, you’re thinking about it theologically, and you could look at, for example, the entire Pearl of Great Price as a midrash. You have Moses as a midrash on Genesis, right? If you think about it in those terms, the literal nature of it is less important than what the book is trying to teach us about who we are as children of God. I think that is where we need to be looking, and I frankly don’t give a hoot about some of the arguments about historicity, DNA, the more troubling avenues is of course Joseph Smith, the more troubling aspect is not the scripture itself, but what Joseph Smith said about and whether he can then be relied upon as a prophet of God. Based on my work on the Hebrew Bible, I would say yeah. Have you looked at those guys lately?

    I mean we have this completely ridiculous idea of what a prophet is supposed to be. No human being can measure up to that and there’s certainly no biblical example that does, and yet we conveniently forget about it. We come up with these stupid Gospel Doctrine lessons that encourage us to look at people in the Old Testament as if they were perfect and they we look at our own leaders to be perfect as well, and when they aren’t, well we leave.

    For those who don’t believe in a literal translation for the BoM or BoA, I thought this was a fascinating response. Comments?

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    mormonheretic wrote:

    John Dehlin interviewed Jana Riess on Mormons Stories and asked about how she felt about the Book of Mormon and the Book of Abraham. I transcribed part of the interview at my blog, but I thought Jana gave a really interesting response concerning a Mormon Midrash. I thought I would post it here and see how everyone felt about it.

    Interesting.

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    mormonheretic wrote:

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    I mean we have this completely ridiculous idea of what a prophet is supposed to be. No human being can measure up to that and there’s certainly no biblical example that does, and yet we conveniently forget about it. We come up with these stupid Gospel Doctrine lessons that encourage us to look at people in the Old Testament as if they were perfect and they we look at our own leaders to be perfect as well, and when they aren’t, well we leave.


    For those who don’t believe in a literal translation for the BoM or BoA, I thought this was a fascinating response. Comments?


    I’m completely with you and jana on this. What a great quote above! coming to a realization of prophetic imperfection is exactly what JS is all about — clearly one of the more imperfect of prophets, yet willing to push the envelope and investigate meaning beyond orthodoxy, willing to syncretize and expand on the teaching.

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    I’m aware of the whole Midrash tradition. In fact, it has been said that the BoM contains a number of midrashim upon Isaiah, and itself.

    Personally I can’t like BoM and BoA. I find the BoM inspiring, but not the BoA.

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