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November 18, 2012 at 9:43 pm #207196
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GuestI was called to the EQ presidency 2-3 months ago. It’s the 3rd time I’ve been in a presidency. I don’t feel like I am doing a good job this time around, partially because my unbelief is getting in the way. Here are two examples. 1) I was asked to represent us on the ward temple committee. We met the other night, and I felt pretty disengaged. The whole point was to discuss how to get people to go to the temple, both old and new. I don’t attend the temple myself. It makes me uncomfortable, and it’s one of the things that seems most made up to me. The only time I commented was when I chimed in about motivators and goals when they were coming up with a program for next year.
2) I’m supposed to interview struggling home teachers. I am a struggling home teacher. I’m a “few, but deep relationships” kind of person and don’t enjoy home teaching. I understand the point, but I’m not sure the program is inspired. I can do the interviews, but I’m not sure how spiritual I can make them, nor how encouraging I can be.
But it also boils down to motivation. I often don’t complete my assignments, then I feel bad. I know if I tried harder I could complete them. But it’s hard to
wantto try harder because I personally believe the church’s programs to be mostly someone’s best guess. I’ve lost the “divine mission” part of it. Should I resign while I sort this out? Do you think I can figure out how to do a genuinely good job? I’m not happy being mediocre.
To answer all of that I probably need to give some of background. I haven’t posted in a while, so here’s the skinny:
My disaffection began 4-5 years ago. I’ve gone through lots of back and forth. Most recently I “finally” (ha, yeah right) decided that I don’t think the church is literally capital-T True, but that something like God is out there and cares about us, but that there isn’t one true way. He helps people help people, so churches have good in them, and this one might be more good than others, but I’m never getting back to stage 3. Things started out slow, but now that I don’t think in terms of all or nothing, it’s easy to just question / doubt things one at a time.
My wife is supportive, and in fact encouraged me to either do a better job, or quit the calling.
At this point I can have positive spiritual experiences both inside and out of church. I don’t usually like paying attention in Sunday School or I get bothered, but I enjoy the community, the culture, and am generally tolerant of TBMs.
One more important thing to note is that I was recently forced out of the tech startup I founded by my business partner, who cited my failure to perform as his justification. I’ve thought a lot about the experience, and have concluded that I was indeed underperforming, but not because I wasn’t trying. We wanted to steer the company in different directions. When my vision became impossible (he won the steering contest), I started to struggle with motivation. I would have phases where I would do well, then I would start having a hard time, then I would re-invest myself and start all over. Now that I’m gone, it’s kind of obvious to me that the right thing to do was leave, and work with different people who shared my values. In the weeks since, I’ve never struggled with motivation, since I’m autonomous and working on things I care about more. I’m steering my own ship and have no problems performing or staying motivated.
I think my business partner might disagree: he might say I should have done something more to be effective instead of leaving.
So, I mention this because my EQ position
feelsthe same. I’m not really doing a great job. Every so often I feel guilty, I re-invest myself, then after a little time I’m back to coasting again. In both instances I’m motivated by what I think I shoulddo instead of what I want to do. A big question in my mind about my life and career is: it seems career-wise I shouldn’t waste time trying to motivate myself to do things I don’t care about or can’t control when there are so many great things to do I AM motivated to do. BUT, am I giving up? Am I becoming a quitter? Is this EQ thing fundamentally different even though it feels the same? (It’s not like I’d be motivated leading in some other religious situation or something).
Thanks for all your help
November 18, 2012 at 11:01 pm #261735Anonymous
GuestTwo quick things: 1) If you get in the habit of running away from difficult things that you don’t like doing, it can become habitual. There is great growth available in learning to do things you don’t like doing – and, in some cases, learning to like those things by doing them.
2) Having said that, being happy and finding joy isn’t possible in all situations. Sometimes, we really do have to walk away from some things.
I don’t know the answer to your title question, but my gut instinct is that your calling is not something that I would say you must resign for some objective reason. I talk all the time about how and why I struggle with Home Teaching, for example – and I did it in the Bishopric, on the High Council, in PPI’s (on both sides of the interviews), etc. I’m not a good Home Teacher, in the traditional program, and I know it – and I am looking at ways to be better at it, but I think it’s important to have people within the leadership structure of that program for whom it’s not easy. It helps keep things real, and that’s important, imo.
I’m not saying you shouldn’t ask to be released. As always, ultimately, I’m saying it’s your call. All I’m saying is that I don’t see, personally, an objective need that rises to the level it would take for me to say, “Run away!” (in my best Monty Python voice)
November 18, 2012 at 11:15 pm #261736Anonymous
GuestThanks for your words Ray. To clarify, I worry that by struggling to stay motivated I am doing a disservice to the quorum: failing at assignments, etc. if it were just about what was good for me it’s pretty easy to say you should usually pick the harder thing
November 18, 2012 at 11:23 pm #261737Anonymous
Guestembwbam wrote:I don’t think the church is literally capital-T True, but that something like God is out there and cares about us, but that there isn’t one true way. He helps people help people, so churches have good in them….
Ifyou really do believe that God gives us opportunities to help one another (that’s my interpretation of what you wrote), andif helping others is something you want to do, andif you think your EQ calling gives you those opportunities, then you don’t need to ask to be released. November 19, 2012 at 12:16 am #261738Anonymous
GuestRemember we are all volunteers. They don’t pay us a dime. I think that we try to do the best we can. Sometimes it will be better than others and if the EQP is okay with your performance and know somewhat of what you are willing to do than stay and serve in a way you feel okay about. If he complains let him find some one else. I know its not always comfortable doing a so so job but there are times when it is the best we can do. Good luck in what ever path you take November 19, 2012 at 2:48 am #261739Anonymous
GuestThey don’t pay us a dime, and we pay them plenty of dimes! There is no silver bullet answer here. When I read through what is bothering you, I was thinking it might even be good to talk about it with whoever is setting the direction and explain why you think there is a better direction (come up with one first!). Temple attendance is a proxy for what exactly? Getting people to come to church and pay tithing? Technically, nobody is required to attend after their own endowment. That’s all just repetition. So, it’s reasonable to ask why that is the focus. I’d avoid sharing your own discomfort with the temple, but if you feel it, others do too, or they just aren’t at a point in their lives where temple attendance is a good use of their time (e.g. have young kids, busy careers, etc.). What IS a good way to “perfect the saints” in your ward? What’s the better vision? I’d give it a think and put that forward. Then if the bishop or whoever wants to go another direction and can’t convince you their vision is what makes a difference, you can just explain your heart isn’t inspired by their vision and maybe they are better served by someone who thinks their way is best.
Trying to do something you don’t believe in is very tough in your job or the church. I do believe, even know firsthand, that the church usually brings out better things in people than they get without its influence. BUT that doesn’t mean every program is equally inspired or that there isn’t more than one way to skin a cat. I’ve been in a situation where I was in charge of something but the person over me wanted it done in a very specific way that just didn’t fit my style. I told her I just didn’t work that way, and asked if she would rather have someone else who wanted to do it her way. She backed off and let me do what I thought was best. Maybe good help was hard to find!
November 19, 2012 at 6:12 am #261740Anonymous
GuestNo. Do not resign.
I have never resigned or declined a calling…
If they don’t want you, they will kick you out…trust me.
Forget about the “church,” and the BS that goes with it, and worry about serving the gods and the people , and let the consequences follow.
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November 19, 2012 at 10:47 am #261741Anonymous
GuestThis is a good discussion. I’m in a similar situation myself. I need to renew my recommend. The difference is I can’t always get a ride to the temple. It’s a hour-and-a-half drive away. Does anybody here know if have to buy all your temple clothing now? I heard from a conference you do. November 19, 2012 at 12:47 pm #261742Anonymous
GuestSome temples still have rental. Some don’t. Depends on which temple. November 19, 2012 at 4:59 pm #261743Anonymous
GuestIt sounds like you are a person who needsto feel that his actions are meaningful and values-driven. I am one of those people, too. When I am less passionate about church, or my work, I feel inauthentic. Since you no longer believe in a Capital “C” Church (and there isn’t a better one out there?) maybe it would help to think about EQ as a fraternal order with the goal of relieving the burdens of people within your community. Its about brotherhood and service, rather than a priesthood royal army. This can be difficult if you are asked to teach, bear testimony, or give blessings. It may not be so bad if you teach and bear testimony of things you
dobelieve, and see blessings as a way to focus positive energy for a person in distress. I don’t know… I kind of agree with Hawkgirl about the temple thing. What is it a proxy for? You’ve already received your own ordinances. Do you see a value in doing something for the dead that they may not be able to do for themselves? Is that value worth the cost in tithing, service, etc.? For me, it isn’t right now, but that might change. I no longer believe that our current temple ordinances are word-for-word revelation–I think they are an inspired morality play with rituals through which we can make important promises to God. It could have been clothed in any form, and the pseudo-masonic creation and fall drama is just as good any any other…
I am also in an EQP and I am having to work out how to be true to
mycalling and examine each of mybeliefs to determine what to keep, and what to chuck. It’s not an easy path, but I feel it is important for my own personal integrity. November 19, 2012 at 9:44 pm #261744Anonymous
GuestHey, I know it doesn’t really address the problem but AFAIK, EQ secretaries do not have the responsibility to do PPI or HT interviews. Indeed they are not technically part of the presidency and have their own duties laid out. It may be that your pres is delegating duties to you that he should not be any more than you will see the executive secretary of the bishop conducting temple recommend interviews (though he might delegate this to his counselors). So you might bring this up with him. This could help you get out of your second point, though not your first.
Good luck!
November 20, 2012 at 6:51 am #261745Anonymous
GuestThanks, hawkgirl, for the information. -
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