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For anyone who needs ammunition against radically conservative Republican immigration statements at church, I give you, with a HUGEsmile on my face 
“Mormon leader: Obama’s immigration plan matches LDS values”( http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/55974230-90/uchtdorf-immigrants-immigration-president.html.csp The money quote:
Quote:“He just said in this value process we need to stand together and make sure the United States is still a place where people can come and once they come can feel not at fear. And do it, of course, in a lawful way,” Uchtdorf told The Salt Lake Tribune in a brief interview as he left the White House. “He was talking about his principles and what he said was totally in line with our values.”
Hooray. Ad this to the Elder Jensen quote from a few years ago and we should turn the state of utah blue (or red? I can never remember)
It’s about time. The values of the Zion are entirely antithetical to the prevailing political environment in Utah. Hugh Nibley was amazed at this, the idea that greed trumps humanitarian policy so often within politics.
I have seen, even in my family, the problems with the way immigration policy is enforced. It breaks up families, hurts people needlessly, and needs to be addressed.
Americans aren’t inherently more deserving of economic prosperity than Mexicans are. The heart of anti-immigration policies is that we need to protect ourselves by not allowing them opportunities. Let them in. Doesn’t encouraging other people of other countries to become US citizens go against the theme of building Zion in their own countries, which developed out of the anti-immigration policies of the US during the 1920s? I’m just wondering. Some people in the church may have issues with this, since it seems like the Church is flip-flopping. I’ve heard other TBMs quote the Article of Faith about Honoring and Sustaining the Law in support of their vow against illegal immigration. I’m neutral and think the Church’s stance is humanitarian in approach and that new immigrants = potential new converts that US culture hasn’t sabotaged yet. Maybe and maybe not, jamison – but this article fundamentally isn’t about encouraging others to leave their countries. It’s about how we treat those who already have – and especially those who have been here for years already. One of Pres. Uchtdorf’s points was that the US turned a blind eye to this situation and took advantage of many immigrants, in a very real way. We caused the issue; we need to accept our responsibility for it and find a humane way to address the issue.
It just occurred to me. When we’re finally called to gather in Jackson county (ahem, cough, cough)… How will they manage to get 7million non-US Mormons through immigration? I have very mixed feelings about this… Firstly, let me point out that I am not American, although I do have American relatives, so I say all this as an outsider. I have no particular desire to live in the USA. I can get most of the things I rate highly about America, fairly well here already. I think the USA is great for some things, and not so great for others, but I’ll leave it at that…
The far left often says, “No Borders, No Nations”, and that sounds great, until you look at it.
If all border controls were lifted for the USA, I seriously think that the population would rise to at least a billion. Can you imagine the strain on the infrastructure? The resulting pollution? The resulting crime? The housing shortages? All from a massive swell of immigration, most of it from the poorer parts of the world. The manmade and the natural environment in the USA would collapse in many places.
I don’t think either the USA or the migrants would benefit. In fact, both would perhaps end up in poverty.
So I think some border controls are good. Unfortunately, the way things work, decent legitimate immigrants – and some decent illegal immigrants – end up getting deported, and some really nasty ones seem to be able to work the system, and disappear.
I’d love to see a world where no one had to flee their country because of war, or leave because of poverty and starvation… if they moved, it would be by choice, and not to be used as some underpaid workforce. I think the west deliberately keeps a number of countries in poverty to exploit their cheap labor.
I don’t think the entire world can adopt an American lifestyle – too wasteful – but I do believe that the entire world’s living standards can be raised. That would be best for all. I don’t think this system can last forever. Whenever I hear about globalization, it sets off alarm bells, because I know it’s not for the global benefit.
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We’ll fly…
😆 (What’s with the % signs? Just appeared…)
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