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June 5, 2013 at 9:54 pm #207614
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GuestI know we have a few Givens students among us, I ran across this other day. To me there were some real gems in it. It’s a bit over 20 min. Enjoy. June 6, 2013 at 2:59 am #268986Anonymous
GuestThanks for the link. (I’m definitely not well-versed, but I guess I can have an un-scholarly reaction.) I liked: “Joseph Smith clearly treasured the opportunity to think out loud…..He was trying to model for us a mode of intellectual inquiry.” Also, “It’s our job to explore.” At another point he was referring to the leap of faith (maybe that’s not the right phrase) we’ve all taken already. “We’ve all gone down the rabbit hole. Once you believe in gold plates, you’re there.” I guess I’ve tracked back and climbed out of the hole. Trying to figure out what’s next.
June 6, 2013 at 7:18 am #268987Anonymous
GuestGivens is apparently heading up the committee that is writing a new book (or books) on the biggest issues in church history, to be published by the church. I’m not sure of the details, but I’m looking forward to it. Source is a friend who attended one of Givens’ recent firesides.
If he’s able to shape Mormon rhetoric for the next few decades then I’m excited.
June 6, 2013 at 11:33 am #268988Anonymous
GuestAnn wrote:“Joseph Smith clearly treasured the opportunity to think out loud…..He was trying to model for us a mode of intellectual inquiry.” Also, “It’s our job to explore.”
This is what I think is ironic about the church — JS is an example of trailblazing, original, creative thinking regarding how a person achieve salvation, yet the modern church is not at all about that. So, his example in that regard is really a non-example for members within the church.
We can learn from it, however, and apply it to pursuits outside the church.
June 6, 2013 at 3:26 pm #268989Anonymous
GuestThanks for this, I love Terryl Givens — a little more every time I hear him. June 25, 2013 at 4:07 am #268990Anonymous
GuestI like his comment about it being our job to explore the creative possibilities (without presuming to declare doctrine) for concepts that are not yet provable or scientifically concrete, like the nature of God. -
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