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June 3, 2013 at 9:08 am #207677
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GuestSo I actually attended church yesterday. It was interesting. I was only on 2 hours of sleep thanks to the new little one but I wanted to make my wife happy after having a discussion about my inactivity this week. i really enjoyed the sacrament although my wife look surprised I wanted to take it. I didn’t ask her about it at the time and I kind of forgot until now. I’m wondering where that came from. I probably read her expression wrong or something.
Then we got to the testimonies. I’m in a student ward so it really clears out over the summer. There were maybe 7-8 couples there with a bunch of kids. There was lots of silence between the testimonies and I was really enjoying it. I used to get really nervous that no one was talking and feel more and more like I should. But since I wasn’t worrying about whether or not I was getting a “prompting” I just used the time to pray and ponder. It almost made me wish there was more quiet time like that. It was very refreshing.
One of the first testimonies, however, was a new sister who went on about how her siblings had left the church and how unhappy they were. She talk about how they “never say they’re unhappy but [she] can just see it in their eyes”. She went on about how sorry she felt for them etc, etc…. Ugh. I didn’t amen that one. I was pleasantly surprised that my wife made a comment to me after sacrament meeting about how judgmental she thought that was and she didn’t agree with that.
A 7 year-old girl said “I’d like to bear my testimony about Joseph Smith. I know that Joseph Smith was a real person and was once really alive. Innanamajesuchrisamen.” A testimony of JS I 100% agreed with for once.

But then came the highlight of the meeting:
My best friend in the ward’s wife gave a beautiful testimony. She is from Italy originally but is naturalized now. She talked about how she could be described as Italian, Italian-American, American, Christian, Mormon, etc. But she bore her testimony of how great it is for her when she lets go of all of those labels and sees herself and others as just children of God. She testified about how when we view everyone around us as children of God instead of with our man-made labels we are better able to love and help each other make the world a better place. It was really a beautiful testimony. Made my day.
After SM we met with my bishop for a minute to talk about blessing our new baby. I really like my bishop. He’s really pretty relaxed. So much so that because my wife is a nurse and has to work Sundays most of the time he has our home teachers bring the sacrament. Instead of giving her a speech about not working on Sundays he accommodated it. I love it. Due to scheduling conflicts we will probably bless our baby in our home or at the church on a weeknight instead of in f/t meeting. I think it’s great to be able to bless him with just our friends and family around. I’m glad he doesn’t think it has to be in f/t meeting like many bishops still do.
But the best part was that when we walked into his office, the book “The God Who Weeps” was sitting on his desk. If it wasn’t for that book I probably wouldn’t have felt the need to search out websites like this one and I’d probably be on my way out. I didn’t say anything about it. He knows nothing of my issues and I didn’t bring any up but the fact that my bishop keeps a copy in his office says something good to me.
Overall it was a pretty good day.
Fortunately with a new baby my wife didn’t want to stay past sacrament meeting. SS and EQ are usually much more painful….
June 3, 2013 at 2:31 pm #269693Anonymous
GuestThanks for the update. That sounds like a nice day – and your Bishop sounds like a great guy. June 3, 2013 at 8:58 pm #269694Anonymous
Guestwuwei wrote:One of the first testimonies, however, was a new sister who went on about how her siblings had left the church and how unhappy they were. She talk about how they “never say they’re unhappy but [she] can just see it in their eyes”. She went on about how sorry she felt for them etc, etc…. Ugh. I didn’t amen that one. I was pleasantly surprised that my wife made a comment to me after sacrament meeting about how judgmental she thought that was and she didn’t agree with that.
These are the type of testimonies/talks that I really dislike. Insulting/belittling/judgemental talks about non LDS individuals because they are not LDS always just bothers me.
June 3, 2013 at 9:04 pm #269695Anonymous
GuestYes, it sounds like a good day at Church…I have heard the stories about how people left the church and now they are miserable, bankrupt, career a wreck, marriage a wreck…the thing they forget to say is that can happen to people who stay in the church. However, not to be too negative,I liked the kids testimony. I think next time I get asked to bear my testimony of JS I will say something like that. Or that “I know the church exists”.
June 4, 2013 at 1:23 am #269696Anonymous
GuestI love the sound of your bishop. I think TGWW should be standard issue with the quad for every member! I guess the Givens’ publishers wouldn’t mind.
Imagine if he were called as the next apostle once a vacancy is made. Lol. Dream on.
June 4, 2013 at 6:29 am #269697Anonymous
GuestSilentDawning wrote:
However, not to be too negative,I liked the kids testimony. I think next time I get asked to bear my testimony of JS I will say something like that. Or that “I know the church exists”.Things i know that would make a good testimony….
I know this church is here. I know that the book of Mormon is truly a book that is published. I know joseph smith went into the woods at some point. I know that the bishop was called by the stake president’s executive secretary to come in for a meeting where he was asked to be bishop. I know that TSM is the true president of the church and the only one authorized to lead and guide its financial decisions made with our tithing money….
..or maybe not.
Too cynical?
😈 June 4, 2013 at 6:52 am #269698Anonymous
GuestQuote:I know this church is here. I know that the book of Mormon is truly a book that is published. I know joseph smith went into the woods at some point. I know that the bishop was called by the stake president’s executive secretary to come in for a meeting where he was asked to be bishop. I know that TSM is the true president of the church and the only one authorized to lead and guide its financial decisions made with our tithing money….
..or maybe not.
Too cynical?
Well, no one can argue with it – that’s for sure! I say do it!
June 4, 2013 at 9:03 am #269699Anonymous
GuestSometimes i really wish i had the chutzpah… and I’d definitely have to make it a weekend my wife wasn’t there..
June 4, 2013 at 5:09 pm #269700Anonymous
GuestI was asked to speak about faith once in Sacrament Meeting, so I defined faith (hope in the unseen) and talked about three things I believe I can say I know, based on my own experiences, and three things I can’t say I know but in which I have faith. That God is my Father is one of the things in which I said I have faith, not knowledge. It was very well received, and I probably will reuse it in a modified form at some point.
June 6, 2013 at 1:40 am #269701Anonymous
GuestAngryMormon wrote:wuwei wrote:One of the first testimonies, however, was a new sister who went on about how her siblings had left the church and how unhappy they were. She talk about how they “never say they’re unhappy but [she] can just see it in their eyes”. She went on about how sorry she felt for them etc, etc…. Ugh. I didn’t amen that one. I was pleasantly surprised that my wife made a comment to me after sacrament meeting about how judgmental she thought that was and she didn’t agree with that.
These are the type of testimonies/talks that I really dislike. Insulting/belittling/judgemental talks about non LDS individuals because they are not LDS always just bothers me.
I was surprised that it did not bother me more. It bothered me but I laughed it off and tried to enjoy the rest. In the past I would have assumed something was wrong with me because what she said is basically what the church teaches and I’d have thought something was wrong with me for not believing it. However, since I no longer believe that the church’s view outweighs mine, her crazy testimony (and others) have less power over me. I think that’s the key.
Something I’ve been pondering this weeks is the 11th article of faith.
I’m trying to remember from primary so it may not be exact:
We claim the privilege of worshiping almighty God
according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, to worship how, where, or what they may. Those in the church forget we can apply this to those in the church as well. And I think we that have differing views on the church could stand to remember to apply it to TBMs. Even if it’s not reciprocated.
In the past I would have stewed over it for the rest of the meeting. But I just remembered that it was her opinion and I didn’t have to agree if my conscience dictates something a bit different. I was just really surprised it bothered my wife enough that she spoke up. That’s what was unexpected.

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