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September 28, 2013 at 5:36 pm #208021
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GuestI moved in my ward about 8 years ago, and at the time everyone was talking about how one ward had been “dissolved” in our stake and ward boundaries had been realigned. (We often don’t hear about dissolving wards, do we? I hadn’t until I moved in!) It had happened 2 years prior to our moving in…. that means it’s been 10 years since the change. Plenty of time to adjust and move on, right? I go to many ward functions, am friends with many ward members, and every single time there’s a ward function, it’s turned into a discussion of remember when…. remember when we did this… remember when we did that… it was so much better when this…. all of which happened before my time. It feels like all the good things that have happened since then are completely discounted! We are still considered new in the ward, after 8 years! I am really tired of hearing about people that moved out before I even moved in.
I have a friend who is in the same stake, and sometimes out of necessity (because of work,etc.) attends our ward. She told me she feels like she is walking into enemy territory because it seems like people are glaring at her, and no one says hello. This is crazy right? I say hello when I see her, but to be completely honest, I don’t go to church every single week, because it’s so challenging to be in a room full of people that just glare at each other.
I struggle going to this ward so much. People aren’t friendly at all. Even the Bishop approached little ol’ me and asked what the ward could do to be more friendly! Not that I need friends to worship, but having friends and an enjoyable experience sure goes a long way.
I personally suffer with depression, and quite frankly am seeing some parallels between my ward and myself when I’m having a major depressive episode. I have decided that my ward is depressed, and needs to go to behavioral cognitive therapy.
September 28, 2013 at 8:02 pm #274624Anonymous
GuestThe culture of any organization is heavily influenced by its leaders. So, a happy Ward would have happy, friendly leaders. September 29, 2013 at 9:24 am #274625Anonymous
Guestroobytoos wrote:
I personally suffer with depression, and quite frankly am seeing some parallels between my ward and myself when I’m having a major depressive episode. I have decided that my ward is depressed, and needs to go to behavioral cognitive therapy.
Diagnosis is the first step.
🙂 I’m sorry you’re dealing with this. There was a time when I took all these ward/stake boundary issues very seriously, very personally. Looking back on it – yikes. I think it’s great that the bishop recognizes what’s going on. Good luck!September 29, 2013 at 1:34 pm #274626Anonymous
GuestI agree that it’s probably really a leadership issue, however, leadership can’t always change an organizational culture especially if they’re a part of it. Sometimes the culture is very ingrained in longstanding members of the organization. I once lived in a ward where there was very little growth by conversion and few people moved in because there was no employment draw there. Actually, thinking about it, those who did come for employment (there was a medical center there) often only stayed a couple years. The rest of the members had been there forever – quite literally they had mostly grown up together. They were not especially friendly to newcomers, I lived there five years and never really felt a part of the ward, converts didn’t stay active. The leadership always rotated among the same few. Actually it was in that ward where I first asked to be released from a calling – I had been in Primary for 3 1/2 years, and really felt I was not growing there, and I felt as though going to priesthood and SS would help me get to know adult members better and feel more a part of the ward. Turns out that didn’t help in the end. I once spoke to my SP about differences in wards (my current ward is very friendly and mostly supportive). He and his family had moved around quite a bit in his younger years and he agreed with the assessment that some wards are much better than others – and had struggled in a ward himself when he traveled a great deal for work and his wife was home with small children including a special needs child. He believed as you do, that he didn’t need the ward members to be friendly and helpful to worship, but it sure made it easier.
I’m sorry that you have this cross to bear. Is there a possibility that you can speak with your SP and get permission to attend another ward? There are some very understanding leaders out there who might be sympathetic – and I bet he knows the issues your ward has.
September 29, 2013 at 1:47 pm #274627Anonymous
Guestroobytoos wrote:I moved in my ward about 8 years ago, and at the time everyone was talking about how one ward had been “dissolved” in our stake and ward boundaries had been realigned. (We often don’t hear about dissolving wards, do we? I hadn’t until I moved in!) It had happened 2 years prior to our moving in…. that means it’s been 10 years since the change. Plenty of time to adjust and move on, right?
This happened in a Ward I attended 20 years ago. In the city there was a City First Ward and a City Third Ward, and no City Second Ward. It was because they couldn’t make The Second Ward go due to lack of priesthood holders after they started it. And then, our SP in one Stake kept splitting Wards at the drop of a hat. This weakened one Ward to the point they had to put two back together again. And his splits demoralized everyone even when the Wards were successful.
In fact, there was a movement a couple decades ago to stop naming the Wards “Washington First Ward, Washington Second Ward” etcetera. Instead, they would be named the “Washington Heights Ward” or the “Victoria Terrace Ward”. I think this was to avoid the fact that sequentially-named Wards burn the memory of failure in the area’s history when a middle Ward (like the 2nd Ward) fails. Geographically named Wards dont’ create naming gaps when the Stake has to close a Ward.
Anyway, I don’t follow the geographically boundary rules for the time being either. There are times when your own mental health, needs of your family etcetera eclipses policy. And if the leaders won’t let you do what is best for yourself by attending a certain Ward, then you have to take matters in your own hands. You have to claim the fact that they can’t stop you from attending anywhere you please.
Also, it’s kind of nice being in a Ward where you don’t live. You can attend, enjoy the services (if you find them enjoyable) and then leave. The Bishop and the Ward CAN’T give you calling — so it’s Church-sanctioned benchwarming. While I am an advocate of pulling your own weight, it’s nice sometimes to have a break.
September 30, 2013 at 2:24 am #274628Anonymous
GuestSilentDawning wrote:Also, it’s kind of nice being in a Ward where you don’t live. You can attend, enjoy the services (if you find them enjoyable) and then leave. The Bishop and the Ward CAN’T give you calling — so it’s Church-sanctioned benchwarming. While I am an advocate of pulling your own weight, it’s nice sometimes to have a break.
^^^This! Of all the sage advice SD has given here, and there are many examples, this is the best. I think going to a ward that’s not your own is a great way to StayLDS. Give it a try – it’s awesome.
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