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December 31, 2013 at 5:48 pm #208311
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GuestI’m really struggling right now and don’t have anywhere to turn. I can’t talk to my husband about my faith crisis because he would be hurt and not understand. I feel like everything I believed is no longer and I don’t know what my purpose is anymore. I cry all the time and feel so hopeless. I’m questioning who I am and how to move on staying in the church. It’s hard and I feel so fake like I’m deceiving everyone. The costs would be way to high for me to leave and I need something to believe in. Is there anyone else out there who has felt like this? Any suggestions? December 31, 2013 at 7:57 pm #278166Anonymous
GuestI’ve been there, and many others on this site. I still struggle all the time, but one thing that helps me is to focus on the things I do believe in. I consider myself agnostic, but I really like the teachings of Jesus in the Bible. Even if they were written by a person, they are still valuable to me. I can try to live those principles and help others as I go through life. If this is the only life we have, then I want to make is as good for as many people as I am able. I still go to church because of my family and where I live. I even still have a calling teaching in primary of all places. I do feel like I am dishonest at times, but what I try to do there is to direct the lesson towards those things I agree with. For example, next weeks lesson is on the plan of salvation. I was worried with that topic at first, but the primary manual directed me to use the Gospel Essentials book, and they had a section in there about how we are all different, and our individual talents are important. I can use that to talk about the value of all people’s life experiences as being important and vital for them, and not judging others. So there are ways to get by at church. If a talk or lesson is hard to hear you can take a bathroom break, or let your mind wonder. It’s not ideal, but sometimes it’s all we can do.
Hang in there!
December 31, 2013 at 8:00 pm #278167Anonymous
GuestHi, Lostbutfound. I’m also fairly new to this forum, and I don’t have a lot of advice to give. Mostly I’m receiving advice. And there’s a lot of it to be found here. You are definitely not alone—there are thousands of us who have lost our faith and had to find new ways to move forward. Sometimes that means gaining new faith, or reinterpreting our old faith. There are many others here who probably have better advice than me (like Journeygirl), so I will just say know that you are not alone. If you have specific issues that are really troubling you right now, please feel free to post about them. This is a place where you can feel free to talk about your issues without fear of judgment. December 31, 2013 at 8:06 pm #278168Anonymous
GuestLostbutfound wrote:
Is there anyone else out there who has felt like this? Any suggestions?With some of the details changed – because I don’t know what brings you here – I imagine almost everyone here has felt lost and alone. And the early ones created this site, thank Heaven. I’m glad you’re reaching out and I can only tell you, as one who was devastated a year ago, that it gets better. Besides the fact that I can’t “go back” to the way things were before, I don’t want to.
I would also say to look into being evaluated for depression, if you’re predisposed to it. Take care of yourself physically, focus on the important stuff and common ground in your relationships.
December 31, 2013 at 9:08 pm #278169Anonymous
GuestLostbutfound, I’m sorry that you are going through this. It is a very hard thing. What hit me the hardest was the loss of a sense of purpose. While we all have individual stories, most here have been through something very similar to what you are going through. No need to feel alone; you are not the only one.
Lostbutfound wrote:I can’t talk to my husband about my faith crisis because he would be hurt and not understand.
I think you should give some serious thought to this. Only you can know when it is right, but I want to give you a couple of things to think about.– I don’t believe it is healthy to hold yourself hostage over the hurt you will cause others. That carries the implication that you have done something wrong. It is similar to the thought that if a girl is sexually assaulted, that she has lost her virtue. You didn’t choose your faith crisis, it happened to you. Will it hurt family, friends, and your husband? Yes. But it has already hurt you, and one of the hallmarks of Mormonism is to suffer with those who suffer. I would hate the idea of my wife suffering mental and spiritual anguish and not confiding in me.
– For me, my pain was magnified by holding it inside to protect others. I suffered debilitating depression until I got it out in the open.
– I’ve tried very hard to still be a good person who is still completely worthy to be an active, participating member of the Church. By so doing, I have been able to let go of the Church as crutch and now stand on my own entirely. I am the way I am because of me, not because of the Church. What this provides me is a way to be able to say to friends and family that I am still the same person; that I haven’t changed, even though I no longer believe in the Church. This is important, because it allays the fears of believing family and friends; that people like us will change. A few years ago, there was a well-known local individual who suffered a brain injury. He recovered physically, but not mentally. His wife stuck with him for a couple of years, but finally divorced him, because his personality was completely different from what he had been before, and they couldn’t make it work. That’s what people in the church fear about people that have a faith crisis: that they will change. Many do. Many don’t. It’s easier to be accepted by others that are still in the Church if you are one of those that don’t change your core.
– You don’t have to agree on the whys of your faith crisis. It should be enough that you are no longer a believer. You don’t need to convince anyone any more than you need to be convinced by them that you are wrong. I respect that my wife is still a believer and I support her in it. She and I can freely talk about frustrations I feel about the culture of the Church, but I don’t get into doctrines with her, because the only purpose would be to destroy her faith.
December 31, 2013 at 9:47 pm #278170Anonymous
GuestI understand. Yes. Similar situation once upon a time. It does get better.
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January 1, 2014 at 12:18 am #278171Anonymous
GuestJust know that you are not alone and things do get easier with time. I find that talking to other when I can and posting on line when I can’t talk to humans face to face. It is a very painful time for many. January 1, 2014 at 1:26 am #278172Anonymous
GuestThanks so much for all your kind words. It helps knowing I’m not the only one who is or has dealt with this. It’s been very difficult to process all my thoughts and feelings without being able to express them. I agree I need to address my depression issues with my doctor and get support that way. I lost my grandmother who was very dear to me before my faith crisis and the thought of never seeing her again creates a huge hole in my heart. My thoughts include questioning life after death, if there is a god, or even a savior. I once knew my purpose and really believed, but no longer have that comfort. I wish I could discuss these things with my husband now but it would only cause a rift. I did pose the question to him and asked if he would leave me if I no longer believed. He responded he would not leave me but our marriage is built on the teachings of the church which would make it difficult for him. He is a true believer and refuses to listen to anything negative about the church. I am glad this site is available. I will definitely need all the support i can get. Thanks again to all of you. It means so much. January 1, 2014 at 7:22 am #278173Anonymous
GuestMany here have given good advice. You are not alone -nor are you going crazy or being deceived. This appears to be a NORMAL part of human experience.
Lostbutfound wrote:I lost my grandmother who was very dear to me before my faith crisis and the thought of never seeing her again creates a huge hole in my heart. My thoughts include questioning life after death, if there is a god, or even a savior. I once knew my purpose and really believed, but no longer have that comfort.
The catalyst for my faith crisis was the stillbirth of our daughter. Interestingly, the LDS church has no clear doctrine as to whether she ever counted as a living soul or member of our family. Having built my beliefs on divine promises and covenants – it was quite jarring to be on my own in this particular religious belief. I had to come to my own belief because the church had no clear teaching.
I did reach a belief that was satisfactory for me through personal searching. I can’t answer for you but I do believe that the relationships we form in this life are important. I do not know the specifics of how that might play out in any future life but I feel strongly that whatever happens – these relationships will not be diminished.
Sharing a faith crisis with a spouse can be very difficult. Ultimately though, I imagine it to be the only sustainable approach.
I suggest that you present what you do believe – with faith and hope in other things too. It’s like your faith is being reborn. Try to focus on what is there, rather than what isn’t.
We will be here to be a support and sounding board when needed.
January 2, 2014 at 3:24 am #278174Anonymous
GuestAs others have said, I have been where you are. I was there for many years until I found this site, also having a TBM spouse with whom I can’t discuss things. I, too, have survived by concentrating on what I do believe and core gospel principles (Jesus Christ as Savior, etc.). I do examine other areas I question frequently, and try to come to a place where I either can believe some of it or disbelieve it altogether (which has turned out to be rare). My best advice: keep coming here and be edified by the assurance that you are not alone and read the ideas and thoughts of others. January 5, 2014 at 7:50 pm #278175Anonymous
GuestI had a faith crisis when my father died. My mother had a break down and has basically disowned all her family that doesn’t live near her. It doesn’t matter what we do to try to help her . Her mind is made up. It has been a very hard thing to deal. I would go to sacrament meeting . Lots of time I would have to get up and leave. It was hard to hear about how families are suppose to be. I really struggle. I don’t feel like I can tell ward members my situation. I did tell friend and she didn’t get it. I feel like such a fake. My husband’s family doesn’t have a clue how we feel. We don’t want to leave the church but don’t like how we are treated. I did really well as long as I had a calling to get me to church. My husband and I both got released at the same time. We have been struggling with church attendance ever since. When The Bishop talked to us we made it clear we needed a calling. I talked to the Bishop again in Oct. nothing hasn’t changed. I really think we need something to help us get to church. Some ward members havemade remarks that let us know they are judging us. My husband wants to go to church.
But doesn’t like how he is treated. Our ward isn’t very friendly and when you don’t have a calling they don’t have to a reason to talk to you.I am at the point I don’t feel things will get better in my ward. They don’t care.I don’t understand why it is so hard to give us a calling. I know that is what HF wants. I know we are not the only one is this situation. The others have given up and are done going to church. We are hoping to retire early and move out of Utah.We have a few years until that can happen. Until then not sure what we can do. I believe that HF lets us go through these things for a reason. I have learned a lot and try to treat others like I want to be treated.
January 6, 2014 at 2:07 pm #278176Anonymous
GuestI don’t have anything new to add other than another number, another body to evidence that you are not alone. On Own Now wrote:What hit me the hardest was the loss of a sense of purpose.
Same here.
On Own Now wrote:For me, my pain was magnified by holding it inside to protect others. I suffered debilitating depression until I got it out in the open.
I can echo this sentiment. Getting it out in the open was just a part of the healing process, finding new purpose was the other part. I’ve been depressed for many years. Finding a purpose, however small, has helped me out of depression. I’m not “cured” but I’ve certainly been happier over the last month and a half than I’ve been for a few decades. I think the specific purpose will be different for everyone, and unfortunately my experience was that it took time to find. The first and hardest step for me was realizing that life could still have a purpose.
Donna wrote:I don’t feel like I can tell ward members my situation. I did tell friend and she didn’t get it. I feel like such a fake.
I don’t feel like I can tell ward members my situation either. The feeling is that the instant I do I’ll be relegated to a corner and ostracized. I won’t be allowed to serve people, which is becoming my new purpose. I’d rather that my new purpose not be taken away from me. At times I do feel like a fake or a sellout, but I try to shed those feelings. My purpose has to include that, help people be the best person that
theywant to be. If being the most devout, orthodox TBM there is helps someone to find happiness in life then I’ll help them achieve that. Share with us your situation, hopefully we’ll get it.
Lostbutfound wrote:My thoughts include questioning life after death, if there is a god, or even a savior. I once knew my purpose and really believed, but no longer have that comfort.
I still question all of those things and have largely lost that comfort. I like the message of the church though, it’s one of hope. My faith crisis helps me to read scriptures in a new light. In John chapter 6 Jesus starts to compare himself to manna and tells the people that they have to eat his flesh and drink his blood to have eternal life. We’ve had 2000 years to apply our interpretations… and the funny thing is that we we think we have it all figured out.
At the time I’m assuming people thought Jesus was off his rocker. Imagine how his followers felt. For a moment forget all of our interpretations of eating his flesh and drinking his blood, that’s the reality his disciples at the time were working with. Imagine if some random person off the street went around saying stuff like that. It
doessound insane doesn’t it? A lot of people stopped following Jesus for that reason. But: John 6:66-68 wrote:From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him. Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away? Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.
Makes me tear up every time I read it now. Gold plates, peep stones in hats, etc. It’s absolutely insane, but… but what? Although it feels strange to reconnect with the BoM, here I go:
Alma 32:27 wrote:But behold, if ye will awake and arouse your faculties, even to an experiment upon my words, and exercise a particle of faith, yea,
even if ye can no more than desire to believe, let this desire work in you, even until ye believe in a mannerthat ye can give placefor a portion of my words. The gospel makes for a nice story, a good desire to have that gives hope of a happy future. I may not believe but at times I desire to believe… and for the first time I see in that scripture that the end result isn’t necessarily a belief in something that wasn’t believed in before, it’s developing a
way of believingthat can “give place” for a portion of the words of eternal life. It’s hard to see at times but I hope I can move forward to regain that measure of comfort. -
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