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    Interesting take on a Mitt Presidency in the Boston Globe found here

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    My personal view is that the church’s 12 ruling prophets, seers, and revelators, who also call themselves the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, are greatly relieved that Romney came in second. While it is true that many wealthy Mormons, such as the Marriott family, or JetBlue founder David Neeleman, donated lots of time or money to Romney’s campaign, the church remained neutral. The church, which takes stands on some political issues, for example, on same-sex marriage, says it doesn’t endorse political candidates, and Romney was no exception.

    “No one would ever come out and say it, but I suspect what you are thinking is probably true,” says Matthew Bowman, a Mormon professor of religion and author of “The Mormon People.” “The whole Romney campaign was a shock to the system for a church that generally wants to move very slowly and is used to hashing out things out internally over a long period of time.”

    One of several bad campaign moments for the Mormon church occurred when a Brigham Young University professor tried to explain the church’s arcane, pre-1978 ban on admitting African-Americans into its ranks. The church quickly condemned the academic’s suggestion that the ban was a “blessing,” and just last month issued a statement disavowing its past racial theories.

    “It was a rhetorical step taken because of the publicity the campaign attracted,” according Bowman. “The church issued a statement after some 30 years of relative silence on the issue.”

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    Well that begs the question… how many disavowals and statements would be coming out now if Romney had won the election? ;)

    #279776
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    That is interesting.

    Where I live people really felt like Mitt would be a good thing. God would be back in control of the country… not an exact quote, but similar to what was said. A few people mentioned when he lost that Mitt was a tool to prepare the world for his church and that him losing was a sign of the “evil in the world today”.

    They are also people unaware of any historical issues and what not. Makes sense though…the article not the place I live.

    #279777
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    As a non-American, non-Republican Mormon I was absolutely delighted he didn’t win.

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    nibbler wrote:

    Well that begs the question… how many disavowals and statements would be coming out now if Romney had won the election? ;)

    Aw, I hadn’t thought of that! Now I wish he had won. At the time I thought it was better for the church that he didn’t win. I live in Utah, and most of the people around here seemed to want him to win though, but maybe that was just because they don’t like Obama. I was a bit disappointed while watching the reports come in on tv that night, but that was because I like change and thought it would be more interesting to have a new president. 😆 (You can probably tell I’m not very fond of politics, I think they’re all wrong!)

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    I think Mitt Romney is very smart, reasonable, capable guy. I think it’s unlikely that he would say or do anything that would cause too much trouble for the church.

    #279780
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    I don’t think Romney would have done anything to cause problems for the church either. I think his being president would bring up a lot more issues that people would scrutinize. That “Mormon moment” thing he caused would have continued and delved deeper I think. By the way, there is a documentary about him on Netflix now. I think it’s called “Mitt”.

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    I agree with Shawn, although any GOP candidate is in huge trouble with the highjacking of the party by the tea party. Anyone without tea party support can’t get the nomination. Anybody with it can’t win the presidency. Romney was in an unwinnable position thanks to the party’s fragmentation, although he wasn’t without his flaws. I would have voted for him, and I voted for Obama in his first term. I believed Romney was far more moderate than he had to pretend to be (based on his record).

    I have to say, count me excited at the scrutiny Romney’s candidacy put the church under. The church has had to deal with things going viral on gawker or elsewhere, and thank goodness for that. It was too easy for things to be brushed under the rug when nobody cared about Mormons.

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    What Hawk said, word-for-word.

    I voted for Obama the first time (McCain?!?!) and Romney the second time (because I also think he would have governed from the center). I think attention hastens change in the way I want change.

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    I think Romney was good governor….Very moderate and real. I hated the way he pandered to the tea party and right to get the Republican nomination. ..

    For the record, I voted for Bob Barr the first time Obama got elected, and Gary Johnson the last time.

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    #279784
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    I have many issues with American politics, particular its two party

    nature, both’s hard right position etc… but how wonderful a black man and a Mormon could be in the running! A century ago that would be unthinkable.

    Romney – and indeed Obama – are far too right wing and neoliberal for my liking, but I must say that Romney’s speech after his defeat was one of the sweetest and generous that I have ever heard.

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    journeygirl wrote:

    I don’t think

    Romney would have done anything to cause problems for the church either.

    I think his being president would bring up a lot more issues that

    people would scrutinize. That “Mormon moment” thing he caused would have

    continued and delved deeper I think. By the way, there is a documentary

    about him on Netflix now. I think it’s called “Mitt”.

    I don’t think he is a bad or corrupt man (although his Cayman accounts are questionable but not illegal)… however it would lead to problems – if Romney had invaded Syria/Yemen/Somalia/Iran etc or instituted policies X, Y + Z, folk might have thought these reflected Mormon views.

    Those who attacked Romney’s religion made arguments curiously similar to those against JFK.

    I didn’t dislike Romney – I think he is a much better man than Dubya or Hilary Clinton – but I still disagree with his politics.

    #279786
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    Although I’m not a big fan for Obama or Mitt Romney, it drove me crazy how many Mormons were upset that didn’t believe Romney’s wife wasn’t wearing garments under her clothes when she appeared on TV. Seriously, people. It’s between her and God. Sometimes too many people in the church talk too much.

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    nibbler wrote:

    Well that begs the question… how many disavowals and statements would be coming out now if Romney had won the election? ;)

    None. The leaders at the top, (based various letters I’ve seen written over the years) do see themselves as representatives of God and His Church, and I don’t see them swayed quickly or easily by political pressures. They move at their own pace, slowly, and with a strong deference to the words of previous prophets, entrenched culture, and administrative policy.

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    Ilovechrist77 wrote:

    Although I’m not a big fan for Obama or Mitt Romney, it drove me crazy how many Mormons were upset that didn’t believe Romney’s wife wasn’t wearing garments under her clothes when she appeared on TV. Seriously, people. It’s between her and God. Sometimes too many people in the church talk too much.

    Exactly – none of their business!

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