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    Wasn’t someone here talking about feelings of anxiety that cause physical nausea? That’s me right now. My wife and I have an appointment with a member of the bishopric this afternoon, and I’m filled with dread. 15 years ago I would have been slightly nervous but mostly excited. Not anymore.

    Any tips or calming words? Any guesses as to what it’s about? 15 points goes to the winner. :)

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    #281183
    Anonymous
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    Based on the very limited info you gave use, my bet is a calling for your wife. That opinion might be different if I knew, for instance, if they made the appointment with you or her.

    #281184
    Anonymous
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    The appointment request came as a text to my wife’s phone this morning. When we moved into the ward, we listed her cell phone as the family number and didn’t give them my cell (I used the excuse that it was for work, which it partially was at the time). She already has a calling but they might be shuffling things around. When I met with the bishop a month or two ago, I told him I wouldn’t feel comfortable with callings but I would be happy to engage in service. I’ve been a little more involved since then though—baptizing my son, showing up to elder’s quorum, etc. We had home teachers over last week, for the first time in 7 years. Maybe they’re going to prod me again for something. Aaaggghhh. I hate this anxiety. The funny thing is, I’ve changed a lot in the past few months. There are a number of callings I would actually be OK with. I’d even give a talk in church (which I have turned down before, numerous times, in other wards). I just hate not knowing.

    #281185
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    Daeruin,

    No need to be anxious. It’s probably a calling for either you or your wife. My suggestion is to go into the meeting assuming it is a calling and that no matter what the calling is or who it is for, that your combined response will be to thank them for thinking about you and that you will give it some thought and get back with them by Wednesday. That will alleviate any concern for having to make a decision in the moment for something that you can only guess at what it might be. That, then, puts you in control. Not all callings are that bad, and as you said, there might be some you’d be happy to do. But either way, it is up to you to accept or decline. They don’t get to assign you by coercion. One issue with callings is expectaions and limits. Planning to take time to think about it, allows you to determine all that. Even if it’s not about a calling, the same concept holds. They might ask you to attend the temple prep class, gospel essentials class or marriage relations class. The same answer… thanks for thinking about it, we’ll think about it, talk it over and get back with you by Wednesday, is just as valid. My whole point in all of this is to allow the subject of the meeting a surprise, but the response to the subject something that you have time to think about, no matter what it is.

    #281186
    Anonymous
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    I feel for your anxiety. I would be in the same position and feel physically ill when I am anxious. I have felt weird anxiety when any member of the bishopric recently. I just don’t want to have any open conversation with them and I often forget that I don’t HAVE to do anything… Love OMO’s suggestions. You don’t have to talk about anything you aren’t comfortable with, you don’t have to accept any calling.

    Fantastic advice OMO..think about it and give them your answer by Wed. I try to use that with everything in my life now. Someone recently asked me to watch twin babies every week for 4 hours for 3 months. I normally would have said “sure” even if I didn’t want to. Now I said , let me think about it. After an hour I knew I didn’t want to. So I was able to think about it, find a nicer way for me to say NO. I also turned down a calling for the first time in my life last summer. I said I would think and pray about it, I did and told him I didn’t feel good about it. Hurray for free agency!!

    On Own Now wrote:

    Daeruin,

    No need to be anxious. It’s probably a calling for either you or your wife. My suggestion is to go into the meeting assuming it is a calling and that no matter what the calling is or who it is for, that your combined response will be to thank them for thinking about you and that you will give it some thought and get back with them by Wednesday. That will alleviate any concern for having to make a decision in the moment for something that you can only guess at what it might be. That, then, puts you in control. Not all callings are that bad, and as you said, there might be some you’d be happy to do. But either way, it is up to you to accept or decline. They don’t get to assign you by coercion. One issue with callings is expectations and limits. Planning to take time to think about it, allows you to determine all that. Even if it’s not about a calling, the same concept holds. They might ask you to attend the temple prep class, gospel essentials class or marriage relations class. The same answer… thanks for thinking about it, we’ll think about it, talk it over and get back with you by Wednesday, is just as valid. My whole point in all of this is to allow the subject of the meeting a surprise, but the response to the subject something that you have time to think about, no matter what it is.

    #281187
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    I too like OON’s advice.

    In the past the Bishop has met with me first to see if I would support DW in her new calling. By saying yes – it became that much harder for DW to say anything else but yes.

    Perhaps it would have been better for me to say, “I support my wife in everything. If she accepts this calling, then I’ll support her in that too.” :thumbup:

    #281188
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    Roy wrote:

    , “I support my wife in everything. If she accepts this calling, then I’ll support her in that too.” :thumbup:

    :clap: Love that!!

    #281189
    Anonymous
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    1) What On Own Said. :thumbup:

    2) I have been asked a few times if I would support an intended calling for my wife. My answer has been similar to Roy’s suggestion – and I usually add, with a smile:

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    You don’t need my permission to talk with her; she’s not one of my kids. She’s an adult. It’s not my call to make; it’s hers. I will support her if she feels she can accept it, and I will support her if she feels she can’t.

    I think it’s important for me to make that distinction crystal clear – that I don’t have the right or authority to grant permission.

    #281190
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    I used to feel the same way. There is so much narrative in the church about accepting callings. And so much guilt and dread.

    My wife and found out through some very difficult circumstances that the anxious feelings are rooted in the assumption that there is no possibility for controlling the outcome, because it ‘comes from God’. I won’t go into too many details, but through some very difficult interaction with a bishop, we jettisoned that part of our old rationale and that asserting the power to say yes or no, was absolutely emancipating, and removed the anxiety. In fact, we found that these kinds of feelings of helplessness in these and other situations were part of the roots of depression, and by using our inner strength and asserting our ability speak out and make choices, life in general has become a whole lot easier to deal with.

    GOOD LUCK!!!

    #281191
    Anonymous
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    Thanks so much for the suggestions and kind words. I went in prepared to ask for time to think about it, and I told my wife beforehand that’s what I was planning to say—if it was a calling for me. As is usually the case, I didn’t need to be so anxious about it. They asked us to help with a stake dinner they put on once a year for the seniors in the stake. They positioned it as a calling but clarified that we wouldn’t be sustained or set apart for it. I’m not sure why they went at it that way, but in any case I was happy to accept. The biggest challenge will be finding babysitters for the kids. :crazy:

    #281192
    Anonymous
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    The biggest challenge will be finding babysitters for the kids.

    or for some of the seniors :P

    #281193
    Anonymous
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    I’m glad it worked out for you. I think it’s funny, actually, that they felt they had to frame it as a calling.

    #281194
    Anonymous
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    Curtis wrote:

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    The biggest challenge will be finding babysitters for the kids.

    or for some of the seniors :P

    😆

    #281195
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    DarkJedi wrote:

    I’m glad it worked out for you. I think it’s funny, actually, that they felt they had to frame it as a calling.

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    When I met with the bishop a month or two ago, I told him I wouldn’t feel comfortable with callings but I would be happy to engage in service. I’ve been a little more involved since then though—baptizing my son, showing up to elder’s quorum, etc. We had home teachers over last week, for the first time in 7 years. Maybe they’re going to prod me again for something.

    I believe this may be a way for them to gently broach the idea of having callings. By asking you to do a service responsibility (something you have said that you will do) and framing it as a calling (something you have said that you are not comfortable with) they may be blurring the distinction and taking baby steps towards having a calling.

    Not that I see anything malicious in it. They probably thinking of the phrase “every member needs a friend, calling, word of God.” By framing this as a calling they get to feel good about their pastoral duty towards you.

    #281196
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    Daeruin wrote:

    I was happy to accept.


    Good for you. What a wonderful opportunity to serve (literally) people who are so deserving.

    I was asked not long ago, to take on a particular calling. The Bishop was very reticent to ask me, because I think he thought there was no way I would accept. I gave it some thought, though, and decided to go ahead with it. I actually have enjoyed it. At no time during my calling is there any mention of the BofM, gender roles, or SSA. I am simply helping fellow human beings. Honestly, it feels good. Don’t tell my Bishop.

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