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    Hi all- I’ve been here for probably 9 months now, mostly reading and posting once or twice- but never have officially introduced myself. I’m a happily married mother if 5- ages 9 to 19. BIC, returned missionary- temple married, etc, etc. I’ve been happily mormon all my life and have always felt like my testimony was pretty unshakeable- but oh, how things change! The things that have brought me to where I am now are many- and too much for one little intro- but if I had to boil it down I’d say this: as my kids have gotten older (and as I have experienced more if life!) I’ve realized that things don’t always go according to plan. As that has happened, I’ve had to reexamine some pretty long- held beliefs. For example- my oldest has opted out of the college/mission/church activity path that I always assumed my kids would take. Now, I’ve always thought I was pretty open-minded, and knew that a mission was not for everyone (and honestly, on some level I’ve always known it wasn’t right for this particular child)- but still, when actually faced with the reality, it was hard! It’s hard on so many levels- but it’s really forced me to confront my beliefs about what is acceptable to God. And as a loving parent, I have a hard time believing that my son is any less to Him- or that he will be cut off from my family in the eternities if he never “comes back” to church. Honestly, I’m not sure he has ever felt a real connection to the gospel- it’s just not who he is- I can’t explain it better than that. And I think Heavenly Father knows that, and is okay with who he is and where he’s at.

    So, that, among other things, has caused me to re-examine. Where am I now? I love the gospel, and much of our unique theology. It just makes sense to me, and I don’t want to leave that behind. Church, on the other hand, often makes my skin crawl. :) I think I’m coming to terms with understanding the gospel differently than I used to. I have a hard time getting fired up about missionary work, because I’m feeling like there are a lot of paths that lead to God. I waver between feeling ambivalent about church, to feeling downright annoyed, to wondering if I just need to be a better person and this will all go away. Hahaha! Anyway- I’m rambling- but I wanted to put something out there- and say thanks- this site has been a wonderful place for me- and is largely the reason that I can post this intro, rather than an angry rant about, well, everything! Glad to be here!

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    Anonymous
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    Well a belated welcome to the forum then :)

    Good to have you with us.

    #283571
    Anonymous
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    Glad to have you here – and glad we have been able to help.

    #283572
    Anonymous
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    Welcome. I understand that you really can’t explain all of your feelings or thoughts in an introductions – as Pres. Uchtdorf said, “It’s not that simple.”

    Just a couple thoughts. I think you may be coming to terms with the idea that the church and the gospel are not one-in-the-same. The gospel certainly is part of the church, but it is also both much simpler and much bigger than the church. It has been difficult for me (and others here) to separate the two, but I think it’s a necessary step for many of us. related to that, the whole idea that your son needs to serve a mission and that men are somehow less if they don’t is part of the church, not the gospel. I think you are right in that your son is not lesser in the sight of God because of his choices – one of the greatest gifts of God is free agency. Neither Pres. Monson not Pres. Hunter served missions as young men – are they lesser in the sight of God?

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    Welcome, welcome! This site is definitely awesome. I’m glad you decided to introduce yourself. My wife and I have young kids and we often worry about what will become of them when they get older. I have seen so many kids grow up with serious issues, including some of my own siblings and my wife’s siblings. I try not to place too much desire on wanting any specific thing for my kids, except for the hope that they end up healthy and happy with their own lives, whatever that ends up being like for them.

    #283574
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    Welcome to the forum! I empathize, as I suppose all or most of us do. I certainly waver between different feelings about church, but a lot of my angry feelings have dissipated. I am more left with a desire to do whatever feels right in pursuing faith based on my own experiences, and I also feel a lot of discomfort and close-mindedness when at church. I want to be at church and find upliftment, yet it takes effort now to get that at church. I hope that you continue to find support and ideas here that help you in your journey.

    #283575
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    Welcome to the group. In the church sometimes we can feel like outcasts, but in the broader perspective – I believe we represent perspectives that are just as rational, good, worthy, and “normal” as anyone elses.

    #283576
    Anonymous
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    Great to have you on the site! Welcome!

    #283569
    Anonymous
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    Welcome.

    I have decided that I’m totally OK with my son NOT serving a mission. I just want him to be successful in life. Success in the church is not a defining characteristic of success in life. As long as he grows up well-adjusted, honest, and good-hearted, and hard working, I will be happy.

    He is not rule-driven, but an entrepreneur, and I see no reason to put him in the “every worthy young man should serve a mission” box. That is self-serving by the church and does not leverage the individual strengths of all people. I would much rather see him start his own business early in life, and learn that way about how to influence others, achieve goals, and be successful.

    I find that as soon as one stops letting the church define what is meant by success in life, the happier we will be. That has been my case. The only time it doesn’t work is when you have to sit in church and hear all that textbook-mormonism phases of life. But as soon as we leave the church meeting, it passes.

    #283577
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    meggle wrote:

    The things that have brought me to where I am now are many- and too much for one little intro- but if I had to boil it down I’d say this: as my kids have gotten older (and as I have experienced more if life!) I’ve realized that things don’t always go according to plan.

    Hi, meggle – Glad you’re here. I think that experience/age is part of what’s going on with my faith, too. The younger me was really full of it – wisdom about how to raise kids and have everything turn out. The older me is much quieter in R.S.

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    Welcome.

    #283579
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    This is my first day on staylds.com, but I was deeply moved by the feelings of “It’s probably time.” I am a convert to the Church, converted when I was 12, but my parents wouldn’t let me be baptized until I was 16. I went to BYU, got married, had kids, went to the temple, then my husband left me (while I was pregnant with my second son.) I tried so hard to raise them in the Church – our little FHE’s, which is difficult with two toddlers 18 months apart. It finally got to the point that they refused to go. I continued going until about 19 years ago, when I left the Church for personal reasons. Ironically I kept searching all these other churches, but none of them believed the LDS doctrine! 🙄 I was naive enough to believe that all the churches at least believed some of the doctrine. About 6 or 7 years ago I was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis, and I’ll admit it: I was angry at God. I finally turned to my mother’s family’s faith, Quakerism, and attended for about a year. It was lovely and peaceful, wonderful people; but it really seemed to be missing something. Not to put them down, but as they were trying to “make-up” a blessing ritual for a newborn, one they found from 200 years ago (Quakers traditionally do not practice ANY of the sacraments, so that confused me.) I found myself remembering the power of the LDS Priesthood and that we knew exactly what to do to bless these babies. I realized I missed the LDS Church and the next Sunday (four years ago), there I was. My only regret was waiting so long.

    But back to your concerns – I totally understand how difficult it is when your child/children leave the Church (mine did.) I hope and pray, and it is a matter of contention between us because they like to give me a really hard time about it. They’ll argue and sometimes it’s difficult not to get drawn in (especially when one of my sons wants me to smoke pot (not legal here in Texas) for my MS. There is some ambivalence. If I left the Church, my family (all of them, not just my sons) would relate more to me; but I also feel that it’s my duty/privilege to be this family bridge into eternity. I hope my example will somehow influence them, and I am also very diligent in my family history and temple work – like I want to at least build this eternal family that will be waiting for me when I die.

    I’m probably not helping you at all. Just keep the faith. We all have doubts; that’s a fact of life (and free agency!) Please don’t discontinue your membership, just wait a while. Does going to the temple help at all? I find so much peace and many answers there, so that’s just a thought. We care about you here, and we’re glad you reached out to us. Remember the three witnesses of the Book of Mormon – they left the Church, one or two came back, but none of them ever denied (even on their death beds) the truth of this Book.

    Please take care and God bless

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