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May 24, 2014 at 1:54 am #208852
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GuestHello, Internets. I’ve been poking around this site for a few months now. When I say poking I really mean I’ve bobbed for all the apples and am now trying to drink all the water by tipping the bucket over my head. My catalyst isn’t incredibly typical: I’m a 25 single female in Utah (
:crazy: ) and started dating this wonderful guy. We kind of had tension and when we decided to end it it was over our differences in the church. He brought up some interesting perspectives that I had never heard, but I thought that if I could say the right thing in the right way it would be fine. It wasn’t. I ended up trying to solve his problems (super unhealthy, don’t recommend it), and discovered some validity to his viewpoints.So there I was: man-less and questioning the church, the one thing I had always had. I guess it didn’t help that a couple of weeks later I saw a Noah special on the History or Discovery channel with “specialists” claiming they had theories proving that a worldwide flood could have happened. With every new person, I laughed even harder. Clearly not possible in my mind. I’ve started to come to the position where I take the Bible and the BoM as hardly historical and mostly allegorical. I love Harry Potter, LOTR, and other works of fiction. Why can’t I look at them the same way and get just as deep of meanings from them as I do the others? It’s a little bit of a mental shock, however, so I’m trying to take it slowly.
I’m also trying not to attach certain conclusions to new perspectives. Even in scientific (and I hate using that qualifier-isn’t science a method, not a field? Tangent…..) studies data and conclusions are different steps. I just finished reading Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance by Robert Pirsig (assigned in high school, finally finished 7 years later) and he brings up the point that we only have knowledge according to our hypotheses, and that there are an infinite number of hypotheses, each with their own data set and conclusions. I guess that’s why I could never be an atheist. Too much commitment. Just the other side of dualist type thinking, in my mind. The “sciences” changes with new light and knowledge, too. I guess I’d call myself an Agnostic Mormon. I think there are few things that I, or anyone else, can know, but I believe.
I really love what I’ve found on this site so far. Learning is a hobby of mine, and I see this as sort of a living library with people expressing their views and providing references. Just a dream come true for me.
:thumbup: May 24, 2014 at 6:16 am #285425Anonymous
GuestWelcome! You sound like a kindred spirit, I look forward to hearing more from you! May 24, 2014 at 12:00 pm #285426Anonymous
GuestWelcome. There are those who share your points of view here. I look forward to hearing more from you. I don’t believe Noah (and most of the other Bible stories) is literal either, but it is interesting that other religions have a flood story, too, although they each differ.
May 25, 2014 at 6:49 pm #285427Anonymous
GuestWelcome, welcome! You do sound like a kindred spirit. I started questioning things around the same age and general life stage as you. I remember in college being frustrated with religion, science, and philosophy. None of them seemed like a sure path, and nobody liked talking about the limitations of whatever system they were working in. I became deeply skeptical, and I am still trying to find that balance. I also consider myself to be agnostic. My entry into the world of StayLDS and middle way Morminism came through a blog called Agnostic Mormon Mom. I found it in a time of desperation by searching for “agnostic Mormon” on Google, and there was a link to this site. If you haven’t era that blog, I would recommend it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
May 25, 2014 at 7:48 pm #285428Anonymous
GuestWelcome! I am new to the site to . We all come with many questions some of us have different queries from others.If you want to look at alternative science I can recommend this magazine either online or subscription. I am a life scientist and a creationist…there is plenty of evidence for many of the theories scientists like to claim are fact. It is enlightening to see an alternative viewpoint.Any way below is the web address you may enjoy some of the articles. I know I have
May 25, 2014 at 11:10 pm #285429Anonymous
GuestThank you all for being so welcoming. At this point, I only tell a couple of people about my viewpoints so it’s wonderful to have the release provided by this forum. I think that’s part of the problem: not feeling like there will be any support. I’ll definitely look into the resources you guys have mentioned. Thanks! May 26, 2014 at 2:08 am #285430Anonymous
GuestWelcome! As I say often to new participants, I hope we can help you somehow – and you can help us.
May 27, 2014 at 10:13 am #285431Anonymous
GuestDancingCarrot wrote:Thank you all for being so welcoming. At this point, I only tell a couple of people about my viewpoints so it’s wonderful to have the release provided by this forum. I think that’s part of the problem: not feeling like there will be any support. I’ll definitely look into the resources you guys have mentioned. Thanks!
No support and/or loneliness was certainly a part of why my faith crisis persisted. This site is good for several things, that outlet for safely expressing our feelings and the support offered are among them.
May 28, 2014 at 6:24 am #285432Anonymous
GuestHi, DancingCarrot – It sounds like you’ve already made two sound decisions in getting out of that relationship and going slowly as you reconfigure your faith. Glad you’re here. :wave: -
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