The end of faith promoting rumors?

We can hope, but I don’t think it will stop anything on fast Sunday.

They’ve already announced the 2015 curriculum.

http://www.lds.org/manual/2015” class=”bbcode_url”>http://www.lds.org/manual/2015

If there are changes to the adult curriculum they don’t appear to be happening next year.

Also, we’re currently on the OT in the SS rotation. That means:

2015: NT

2016: BoM

2017: D&C/History

SO… 2017 before any of the essay material could conceivably be introduced into SS topics? Quite a ways away, who knows what could happen between now and then.

The church better look at its own materials ->

The Gift of Interpretation of Tongues (D&C 46:25)

This gift is sometimes given to us when we do not understand a language and we need to receive an important message from God. For example, President David O. McKay had a great desire to speak to the Saints in New Zealand without an interpreter. He told them that he hoped that the Lord would bless them that they could understand him. He spoke in English. His message lasted about 40 minutes. As he spoke, he could tell by the expression on many of their faces and the tears in their eyes that they were receiving his message. (See Answers to Gospel Questions, 2:30–31.)

https://www.lds.org/manual/gospel-principles/chapter-22-the-gifts-of-the-spirit?lang=eng

This bizarre passage continues to appear in lessons for investigators and presumably in NZ too. New Zealand is an English speaking country, in fact, it has a higher percentage of native English speakers than many parts of the USA.

Presumably this is a reference to the Maori (native New Zealanders), the majority of whom spoke English back then. (A minority of them actually speak their own language these days)… or to Pacific Islanders who went there. If the second instance is the case, then that should be better explained – even so, Samoa, Tonga and Fiji all speak excellent English (although as a second language,)

Yes sorry Heber, went into GP the other day – this came up. A regular annoyance.

NZ must be in in top twenty English speaking countries by first language. (If you’re going by second language, India is bigger than US or UK combined for English speaking pop.)

Canada isn’t even that English speaking compared to NZ, or South Africa.

In fact President MacKay would be more likely to have had trouble understanding Scots relatives than NZers!

I consider this story an FPR promoted in print. Anyone who knows the basic facts would find the way it’s told strange.

Sorry folks, I haven’t been round for months. I’m still here despite the efforts of this year to break our spirits on every level…

I discovered Holy Fetch today, which deals with FPRs. I’m going to submit the McKay story to them. It reads really badly to anyone who knows New Zealand (I’ve had a big hankering to go back there recently… It’s over twenty years since I last went. It’s gorgeous although the towns themselves are boring.). That manual isn’t in use anymore, but that story will have been repeated to millions of people at some point or another – basically anyone who got or read that manual.

I think we are better at not repeating FPRs, but GAs don’t help when they repeat stories about people who aren’t named, in locations we don’t know.

http://holyfetch.com/

I’m so glad you shared this Sam. As a missionary in NZ in the mid 80s (where DOM and Matthew Cowley were folk heroes) I always wondered how effective I was being. I’m so glad I now know I had the gift of tongues so as to be understood – I can now sleep well! :think:

See, you had it too! Box of bees, mate!

SamBee, It’s good to have you back. I’ve missed your voice.

Thank you MM, bit grumpier than the old me due to the situation, but surviving! Hope you are well.

I don’t know why I haven’t been visiting this board more to be honest.

Yes, it looks to be a very dirty election, I’m afraid. I suspect postal ballots are going to be a huge controversy. It’s an incredibly bad time to be holding an election as well.

I have been keeping away from the news, but I did see the VP debate. A bit dull and not really a debate. Because I was watching on a phone, I missed the most entertaining part of it – that fly on Pence’s hair!

Yes, I hope things do return to normal. I think this has gone on too long already. It would be easier to protect the vulnerable than destroying everyone’s livelihood. I haven’t so much as shaken someone’s hand for six months, let alone hugged anyone. Church is really strange, but I’m glad it’s happening again. When it reopened, I spoke to more people on that day than I had in the previous four months! On the other hand, I did watch the entire series of Futurama which I hadn’t seen in nearly twenty years. 😆 Nibbler will be happy.