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September 20, 2015 at 10:23 pm #209478
amateurparent
GuestMy neighbor recently made the comment that she could never be LDS because we don’t have women in our ministry.. And she couldn’t imagine women not being able to speak in church. In her church, only clergy speak in services. She was stunned to find out that women spoke in the LDS church all the time. She made assumptions .. Because of her background. So .. Last week, I was writing a post about how I was brought up. It was a fairly scathing note about misogyny and the church. As the paragraphs poured out, the anger did too. There were so many stories of disfunction and codependence, all wrapped up in a glossy wrapped paper of church and priesthood.
Suddenly, it hit me. None of how I was raised was part of the church’s agenda. My parents used the church as an excuse for their own personal agendas. But none of it had anything to do with the church. Even after all these years, I was making assumptions. I had mixed up and confused my own personal background, culture, and religious traditions.
I was wrong to do so. This realization has allowed me to listen to some things with new ears this week, and to read some things with a slightly less guarded heart.
In a LDS family where I will always be thought to be less important and less valuable because I am not a man, it is too easy to lay that blame on the church. A small amount belongs there. Most belongs with the people who chose to raise me in such a way that I and my sisters were expected to be in servitude to the men in our lives. In a family where husbands and sons eat off china, and daughters eat off paper plates, and a daughter going to graduate school was a serious offense of abuse and neglect of her proper duties, it was all too easy to look around and assume our parents learned those rules from some external source, and that source must have been their church culture. It was not. They took church rules and warped them.
Anyway .. Lots for me to think about this week.
September 21, 2015 at 12:54 am #293935Anonymous
GuestThis is an incredibly profound post. I just want to say that and thank you for writing it.
September 21, 2015 at 2:19 am #293936Anonymous
GuestQuote:
Suddenly, it hit me. None of how I was raised was part of the church’s agenda. My parents used the church as an excuse for their own personal agendas. But none of it had anything to do with the church. Even after all these years, I was making assumptions. I had mixed up and confused my own personal background, culture, and religious traditions.Serious lightening bolt moment. I hope you don’t mind if I borrow it?
September 21, 2015 at 3:23 am #293937Anonymous
GuestMom3: If you can find anything worthwhile out of my words, please feel free to use them.
Lightening probably won’t strike twice .. So I’ll get what personal insight I can out of this single strike.
September 21, 2015 at 4:56 am #293938Anonymous
Guestamateurparent wrote:Suddenly, it hit me. None of how I was raised was part of the church’s agenda. My parents used the church as an excuse for their own personal agendas. But none of it had anything to do with the church. Even after all these years, I was making assumptions. I had mixed up and confused my own personal background, culture, and religious traditions.
What an “ah-ha” moment! Very profound.
If it makes you feel any better, I think we all have traditions of our parents we don’t even realize had nothing to do with what the church actually teaches, but things are just the way we’ve always heard them. For me, it was things like assuming Joseph Smith was actually looking at some plates while translating, and frogs boil in water if you slowly turn up the heat…stuff like that.
It is uncomfortable at first, then maybe a little embarrassing we never thought to question or ask things before…but it is a sign of maturity when we can accept it isn’t the “church’s” fault for people having limited understandings. It is our challenge to question and find truth for ourselves. That is what God wants us to do.
Quote:If you would be a real seeker after truth, you must at least once in your life doubt, as far as possible, all things.
Rene DescartesI don’t think we are ready to see things as they really are at all once. We have grow line upon line, grace upon grace, until we can molt the things we thought we knew to grow a newer spiritual skin. It is not just mormons that go through this. Humans do.
September 21, 2015 at 8:55 am #293939Anonymous
Guestamateurparent wrote:This realization has allowed me to listen to some things with new ears this week, and to read some things with a slightly less guarded heart.
Thanks, AP. I would love to hear more about this if it suits you to tell it. And I’m sorry for the sad parts of your family’s past.September 21, 2015 at 9:29 am #293940Anonymous
GuestTo me, this underscores a bedrock principle of StayingLDS (at least, for me). And that is to teach your children about what YOU think, and have solid reasons for it. No appeals to church authority. I do appeal to the law — when training my son about ways kids get into trouble, and the consequences. But church reasons are rarely, if ever given for why things run a certain way in our family. I will admit, we have at times consulted the Strength For Youth pamphlet to determine options for how to handle dating etcetera, but that was as an “option”.
Also, don’t underestimate the power of “culture” and how it directs behavior unconsciously. When you elevate one group over another, the superiority-inferiority implications tend to cascade to other behavior and situations. One must be on guard to make sure that we are aware of these assumptions and don’t let me affect us in ways that go beyond the culture.
I’m thinking of the STanford Prison Experiment where experimenters took subjects. Some were relegated to prisoner status and others guards. This status drove a whole host of other behaviors that went beyond the scope of the guard’s responsibilities to the point they had to shut down the experiment.
It takes the kind of awareness and mental discipline that AP implies to prevent this kind of “culture creep” into our families.
September 21, 2015 at 5:43 pm #293941Anonymous
GuestSince I am a convert I don’t have the same perspective as you AP, but I see this relating to things I have done as a parent (many of which I now regret) and I see it relating to the general membership of the church and church culture. You articulated this idea very well, and I appreciate it. I have come to similar conclusions but am not able to put it into words like you have. When I say “X” is not a church teaching, this is what I am trying to say. September 29, 2015 at 2:03 am #293942Anonymous
GuestAs I read thru paragraphs one and two I was thinking ahead and then read paragraphs three and four and that was just what I was thinking. Interesting how we can mislead ourselves about the church and the church can also mislead us about ourselves. -
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