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    I’ve continued reading posts on this site but haven’t written or commented in a while. So here I am! Last time I wrote a post, I was still student teaching which was over 6 months ago. Now I’m trying to transition into becoming a “real” adult. Right now I’m living at home which hasn’t been super fun. I live out in the middle of nowhere which means that there’s not a lot to do. I am going to a singles ward and am enjoying it for the most part, but I don’t go to much outside of church because it’s over an hour drive for me.

    So, in an effort to go off and live on my own I’m planning on moving to Raleigh which makes me excited and terrified at the same time. I think moving to a city will be good for me and will allow more job opportunities. But, it puts me in a really weird transitional phase right now that’s been difficult to deal with. I’m in between jobs and when I have nothing to do I tend to slip back into depression which I’ve dealt with for many years. I try to tell myself that I’m going to do positive things with my time off and then end up spending the day on Netflix rather than filling out job applications of getting ready for my move. What do you do when you have too much free time on your hands and are struggling to be motivated to do much of anything? That’s where I’m at right now.

    I’ve also been thinking about a conversation I had with my old roommate and was wondering about some of your thoughts. We were talking about how all our friends are married and having kids and how we are the only one in our group still single. I mentioned another friend that wasn’t married yet and her response was just “oh just give it a couple months and she’ll be engaged. She just got back from her mission.” And my response was, “And you don’t think that could happen to either of us?” “No,” she replied, “we are too liberal. I’m realizing I can’t date some Utah Mormon boy.”

    I’ve been thinking about that conversation a lot lately. Am I less likely to find someone because I am more unorthodox? That kind of got to me. I feel like I need to find someone that is a little more liberal but still connected to the church enough to get married in the temple because that is still what I want despite my uncertainties about the temple. A person like that can be difficult to find.

    Any thoughts on my long rant?

    #300596
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    Hi, youngadult – Congratulations on finishing your student teaching. :clap: I felt at loose ends at this time of my life, and my own early-20’s kid is experiencing it, too. I was a very dutiful person who always did what was put in front of me, and then suddenly no one is providing the next step, and it’s all up to me. It was scary. (Btw, are you talking about moving to Raleigh, NC? That’s a great part of the country.)

    Re. dating and marriage, there’s probably a guy out there wondering how on earth he’ll find a liberal LDS girl like you. So now the trick is locating each other, but it is definitely in the realm of the possible. This isn’t something my daughter wants to hear, but I’ve suggested that she shouldn’t rule out dating or even marrying a non-member. I only say that to drive home the point that church membership isn’t the biggest key to compatibility or marital happiness, even though that common ground could be very important. I want her thinking really carefully about the man himself, and not just his church.

    Good luck with your job hunt and move. I hope you’ll let us know how it goes.

    #300597
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    Moving out of your parent’s house is probably good as long as you can afford it. Being the parent of a couple of young adults who have come home for the summer or whatever, I recognize it’s difficult for the young person. It’s difficult for the parents, too. Good luck in finding a job.

    I think it’s easy to get in that mindset of Molly Mormon and Peter Priesthood only looking for each other. This is exacerbated by the LDS marriage culture, where a RM is expected to be married within months of returning. My own daughter suffers from the same thing, she is a graduate of BYU and is in grad school attending a YSA ward. I also live in the east and served a mission (although a bit later because I’m a convert). I was 26 when I got home from my mission and married when I was 30. It just took time, albeit we were at the time both TBM. I think you might be surprised at how many people your age have unorthodox leanings, they just hide it very well and you need to get to know them. They’re probably thinking the same thing about you – that you don’t want them because they’re too unorthodox. I’m just beginning to realize a guy who I’ve known for 25 years is a lot more unorthodox than I ever imagined – after a discussion about gay marriage (civil marriage vs. religious marriage).

    Hang in there – lIfe is a highway, I wanna drive it all night long!

    #300598
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    youngadult22 wrote:

    So, in an effort to go off and live on my own I’m planning on moving to Raleigh which makes me excited and terrified at the same time.

    Here’s a link to a facebook group of perhaps some like minded people:

    Raleigh/Durham Uncorrelated Mormonism

    It’s listed on the Mormon Stories site as a support group. Their disclaimer is:

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    Please know that these communities are not owned/operated by the Open Stories Foundation. Nonetheless, they are filled with wonderful people who are happy to interact with and support Mormons like you.

    Personally I don’t know the first thing about Mormon Stories, I just haven’t had the time to investigate, I’m just throwing this out there to give you a frame of reference. Mormon Stories is on my to do list though.

    #300599
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    My oldest daughter is in somewhat of a similar place. However, she is the more orthodox with the less orthodox family, her concern is if she will find someone who will be comfortable with that dynamic. She too has graduated from the Lord’s University in Provo, she lived nearby us for a couple of years then was transferred to the midwest. She has remained connected to the YA wards, and has other related church plans, but she also has coworker friends that she spends time with.

    One thing she has done, while waiting for Mr. Right, is fill her life with hobbies and interests. She doesn’t wait for him, she goes out and is who she is, and hopes their paths will cross someday.

    #300601
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    YoungAdult wrote: Am I less likely to find someone because I am more unorthodox? That kind of got to me. I feel like I need to find someone that is a little more liberal but still connected to the church enough to get married in the temple because that is still what I want despite my uncertainties about the temple. A person like that can be difficult to find.

    You like liberal and unorthodox. Those men do exist.

    It is really easy to look out at a sea of faces in a congregation and assume that each is a cookie cutter generic member. That assumption isn’t fair to them or you. It is fun to get to know people, and in LDS society where sameness is encouraged, there has to be a certain amount of trust in a relationship before you even get to know someone’s individual thoughts and feelings.

    Sometimes, the people who put on external markings of unorthodoxy are more troubled that you would first assume. Some are simply Narcissists looking for an audience.

    You are going into a new community, new adventures, new relationships. Enjoy the journey .. You want great stories to tell when you are old. This is one time in your life that people will know you as an individual. They will know you for yourself, not through your connections as someone’s daughter or sister or wife, but as you. Enjoy finding out who you are. While you are HAVING FUN doing that, relationships tend to happen.

    My roommates who focused on marriage seemed to struggle with relationships. I had no interest in marriage, I just wanted to go play. There must be something about that attitude that men find attractive, because I kept having men want to get serious. They didn’t seem to understand that it wasn’t an act — I really wasn’t interested in marrying them. And then I met DH and I changed my mind about that marriage thingie.

    So . Short answer .. Go play. Have fun. Build a life. Relationships worth keeping happen in their time.

    #300600
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    amateurparent wrote:


    You like liberal and unorthodox. Those men do exist.

    I am fairly liberal and fairly unorthodox. I exist. The Church also doesn’t really like me to exist, but hey what can you do?

    Am working on being able to get married in temple though.

    #300602
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    Thanks for the comments everyone! Right now I’m really just trying to have fun and “play” as amateurparent said. I think that’s a big part of why I’m moving to Raleigh, North Carolina – more people, more stuff to do, and more opportunities.

    #300603
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    Haha looking back at this post and laughing now. After I moved to NC, I immediately started dating a guy, broke up, got back together, and now have been married for almost a year. Interesting how things worked out. He struggled a little with some of my disbeliefs but we were able to work through them and get to a place where I felt comfortable going to the temple. But as far as being liberal, he’s a Mexican that came here illegally with his parents as a child and blessed through Obama’s DACA laws so you can imagine what his current thoughts are on the current political climate of the country.

    #300604
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    Things have a way of working out sometimes. Thanks for checking in, and glad things are going well.

    #300605
    Anonymous
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    Thanks for the follow-up. I as a young single adult felt like being in a relationship would validate me … and I wondered if it not happening was some sign of something wrong. It is an interesting age. ;)

    #300606
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    Thank you for the update. I am glad you have found peace and a good, supportive spouse.

    #300607
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    youngadult22 wrote:


    I’m in between jobs and when I have nothing to do I tend to slip back into depression which I’ve dealt with for many years. I try to tell myself that I’m going to do positive things with my time off and then end up spending the day on Netflix rather than filling out job applications of getting ready for my move. What do you do when you have too much free time on your hands and are struggling to be motivated to do much of anything?

    Strange how that is — the more free time you have, the less productive you are! I have had to grapple with that problem because I teach online a lot, and so I wake up many days with no appointments from dawn until midnight. Those days are the least productive for me if I don’t impose discipline.

    Here is how I do it — I schedule something in the middle of the day — lunch with someone, meet me wife at lunchtime, a doctor’s appointment, a service project, SOMETHING to put an anchor in my day. That creates a kind of healthy pressure to get things done until the appointment.

    Another thing, write out a personal mission statement. Stephen R Covey suggests you have one and I do have one. Something that really motivates you about the kind of person you want to be rememered as. Here is a site on it.

    https://msb.franklincovey.com/” class=”bbcode_url”>https://msb.franklincovey.com/

    On the weekend, or when bored in church, pull it out and plan how you ‘re going to achieve the mission by putting blocks of time in your schedule when you’ll pursue that mission. For me, it’s “to lead others to greater truth, competence, and self-reliance” and then I have specific attributes I want to develop in each of my roles as father, community leader, employee and husband. I have projects in which I further that mission, and have to make sure I am working at it each week. Having that vision of what you want to become can motivate you to assign blocks of time in the week to those activities. And that will make your other time productive. If your schedule is wide open, then do it early in the week rather than later, and FEEL GOOD ALL WEEK. Just make sure that mission statement really motivates you, and the site above will help you put your finger on what lights your fire.

    Also, do your job search time off site. Maybe at the local library or take your laptop to Starbucks. The act of getting out of your house will help you stay focused and away from Forensic Files, Criminal Minds, Wentworth, Person of Interest, Hawaii Five-O, Youtube, and a ton of other shows that have distracted me over the last year at various times if I don’t impose self-discipline.

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    I’ve been thinking about that conversation a lot lately. Am I less likely to find someone because I am more unorthodox? That kind of got to me. I feel like I need to find someone that is a little more liberal but still connected to the church enough to get married in the temple because that is still what I want despite my uncertainties about the temple. A person like that can be difficult to find.

    It’s not easy finding the right person even when you remove the church restriction! The wider the options the easier it is. I think it’s a bit harder to find a mate when the criteria is unorthodox because a) people don’t want to admit it at church and b) many of those people often aren’t coming to church anymore. So you don’t know where to find them.

    My advice is to use an online dating site for LDS people where you can state your unorthodox beliefs and get it in front of a wider audience. That’s what I would do. People who want orthodoxy will opt out and people who want someone unorthodox will opt-in.

    Hope that helps..

    SD

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