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    Hey ya’ll.

    Just to start out, this is sort of a heavy discussion so you’ve been warned.

    My step children came out for the summer like they usually do since we moved to Utah and I drove out to pick them up from South Dakota and drove back. On the way out to Provo, I casually asked my step daughter (13yearsold) how things were going at home with her mom and step dad. I usually ask this just to make sure things are okay, I have been told by both my step kids that their step dad can be harsh, mean and sometimes unreasonable and that their mom has had to talk to him multiple times about how he treats the children. Anyhow, she said things were okay but recently something had happened that made it uncomfortable, etc. I didn’t want to pry and make her tell me but she reassured me that she wasn’t abused or something of that matter. When we got to Provo, I told her dad and let him know that I had a bad feeling about it. He took a walk with her a few days after and pulled the whole “I’m your dad, you have to tell me what happened” card. Turns out, one morning while she was getting ready for school (this was about two weeks before school was done for the year) she did her usual routine of getting up, showering, wrapping herself in a towel and going to her bedroom to finish getting ready, she went to her closet and found her step fathers cell phone hiding behind an object video taping her. *puke* I know….

    I had talked to her about this privately a few days later to really get some detail and find out what happened. She said she had watched the video enough to see that her step dad put the phone there, deleted it, and snuck out her window and went to school. Later that day she told her mom who then confronted her husband (stepdad) about the video. Apparently his excuse was, my step son (then 10 years old) had found some inappropriate material on his kindle or perhaps it was at a friends house, and step dad was curious as to what took my step daughter so long to get ready in the morning (as any woman will tell you, when you’re 13 it takes a long time!) so instead of asking her, he decided to video tape her, without mommy knowing or discussing the idea with her first. Not to mention, step daughters phone was taken away awhile before this, she doesn’t have a computer in her room, nor did she have her kindle. (i.e. no electronics in her room at all)

    Anyhow, long story short, I called the police and reported him for making child pornography. The SD detectives took his phone, didn’t find the video, but step daughter talked to detective out here and gave a credible testimony of what happened. After the investigation was closed, we waited to hear from the state attorney if he would be charged. We didn’t hear anything for awhile and things went back to normal. Unfortunately we didn’t have the power to prevent the kids from going back to mommy/step dad at the end of the summer and had to return them. (that was heartbreaking) Fast forward a few months and mommy/step dad get sealed in the temple.

    Now my question is……….”Does he really think he’s worthy of going through the temple to get sealed after what he did?” and “Is there anything we can do to get that annulled?”

    The detective that was working on our case called the other day, turns out the state attorney is going to charge stepdad. This is great news because we’ve been praying like crazy that justice will be served and I kept finding myself returning to Matthew 18:6 “But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.”

    We also went to our Bishop after finding this out and he said he would contact mommy/stepdad’s bishop and talk to him as well. Our Bishop was never able to get a hold of their Bishop until mommy/stepdad were served with a search warrant and they called their Bishop. SUDDENLY our Bishop heard from him. (Seems like he was avoiding talking to ours.) He was saying that they came to him and told him what step dad did was a mistake and his intentions were not vile but rather concern for his step daughter and he claimed that once he heard the shower turn off (from stepdaughter) that he realized he made a mistake but that it was too late to remove his phone. I have played out this scenario in my head over and over, it just blows my mind his lame excuses because my stepdaughter has a routine, he knew that she would be naked in her room. She has the same routine at our house. There is no excuse. Anyhow, I keep praying that he will be charged and that we will be able to seek custody of the kids (because mommy took his side and tried to hide it, also told stepdaughter not to tell anyone about the situation, plus she found out she was pregnant with stepdad right when this situation happened) and provide a safe, stable home for the kids.

    Thanks for listening to my rant.

    #306159
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    My heart goes out to you, but you absolutely did the right thing calling the cops. I can’t think of how hard it would be for me to let my kid go back into that environment. That has to hurt your heart.

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    #306160
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    LookingHard wrote:

    My heart goes out to you, but you absolutely did the right thing calling the cops. I can’t think of how hard it would be for me to let my kid go back into that environment. That has to hurt your heart.

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    Thanks, it has been really hard. The summer was definitely tough once the cat was out of the bag and I really worried about how my stepdaughter would feel returning to mommy/step dads after they knew she told us. I hate that she feels that she caused all of this and that it’s all her fault but my hubby and I have reassured her she did nothing wrong, he was in the wrong. It just blows my mind that he still got sealed after all this.

    #306161
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    1) You did the right thing.

    2) The recommend interview is only as good as the honesty and presentation of the person being interviewed. Local leaders don’t all have superhuman powers of discernment, no matter what some members believe.

    3) Human minds can justify anything. We can choose what to justify and what to not justify, at least to some degree. Some justifications are vital to survival and general mental/emotional health – and I try hard to remember that when talking about situations like her mother’s. Yes, her support of the step-father is appalling – but it also is classic and widespread for people like her who feel trapped and dependent on someone else.

    Finally, there are implications for religious lives, as well – but those implications cut both ways. You only were able to have an impact because you still were part of her life. What that means in religious terms will vary individually.

    #306162
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    ihcake, you said:

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    Now my question is……….”Does he really think he’s worthy of going through the temple to get sealed after what he did?” and “Is there anything we can do to get that annulled?”

    As human beings, we can justify many forms of behavior. He is not the first or last.

    As far as what you can do about it? You already are.

    My daughter was sexually abused while she was in the custody of my exwife. I know what you’re going through.

    I’m not going to go into a lot of details here. I have talked about it in other postings. If you want to know more send me a PM.

    Do everything you can to get her away from that situation now. Contact a good attorney.

    I wish you & your family the very best in this difficult situation.

    #306163
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    In reading this I am torn. If I were reading this in a newspaper article then I would try my best to withhold judgment. I believe in being innocent until proven guilty and I know that a claim of child pornography can ruin a person’s life. I would assume that I do not have all the facts and hope and trust that the police, courts, and legal system can get to the bottom of it. That is me with my concerned citizen hat.

    As a father… I would have a very hard time acting rationally. I would probably do everything legally at my disposal to remove my daughter from that situation.

    From both my concerned citizen and fatherly perspective I believe notifying the police was the right thing to do. I don’t have much of an opinion about the bishop and temple stuff – this is a potentially criminal matter that needed law enforcement.

    #306164
    Anonymous
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    Thank you for doing the right thing and getting the proper authorities involved. Thank you for being her advocate.

    As far as the step-dad and the temple goes .. This isn’t the first nor the last time sacred things were abused.

    Hopefully, you can get her out of there permanently.

    #306165
    Anonymous
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    I am so sorry to hear this. What a horrible situation to be in, worrying for your daughter. Ray is right about the limits of bishops to be able to really do effective intervention in these cases, so it’s good you involved the police.

    Wow. Just awful. I’m really glad your daughter told you.

    #306166
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    I have learned not to rely on the church for solutions to problems in my life. You are better using proper channels. They have teeth if necessary, and are often subject to various checks and balances. But they can be merciless too.

    #306167
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    ihcake wrote:


    Thanks for listening to my rant.


    ihcake – This situation deserves all the attention and emotion you’re giving it. I hope the right thing happens.

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