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February 10, 2016 at 8:28 pm #210548
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GuestBeginning today – Ash Wednesday through March 24 is the Christian Season of Lent. I think it is a cool practice. If your interested in attempting a Lent session, try some of the following suggestions on for size. Or get inspired by the idea and try a personal attempt.
Not mandatory, but fun.
Happy Lent
http://www.ibtimes.com/lent-fast-2016-what-give-beginning-ash-wednesday-2299369 ” class=”bbcode_url”> http://www.ibtimes.com/lent-fast-2016-what-give-beginning-ash-wednesday-2299369 February 10, 2016 at 9:13 pm #308999Anonymous
GuestI like these reminders and challenges to practice good behaviors. I should do them all the time, but these reminders help me practice. Religion is good to help us practice.
February 10, 2016 at 10:17 pm #309000Anonymous
GuestThanks, Mom. I had actually given lent some thought this year. Even when I was a nominal Catholic I didn’t do lent, but I see value in it. Your linked suggestions are great. I was having trouble deciding what I might “sacrifice” and didn’t actually come up with anything until I saw what the Pope said (which is similar to your list): http://time.com/3714056/pope-francis-lent-2015-fasting/http://time.com/3714056/pope-francis-lent-2015-fasting/” class=”bbcode_url”> This made the rounds on social media, but I really like this message:
Quote:“No act of virtue can be great if it is not followed by advantage for others. So, no matter how much time you spend fasting, no matter how much you sleep on a hard floor and eat ashes and sigh continually, if you do no good to others, you do nothing great.”
Voila. Lent for me.
February 11, 2016 at 1:32 am #309001Anonymous
GuestOh wow, thanks DJ – I love the Pope article. Deep inspiration. Marked it and keeping.
February 11, 2016 at 1:34 am #309002Anonymous
GuestLong story, but I ended up at Catholic mass (Mass?) today with one of my kids who was interested in going. I think mass and sacrament meeting are apples and oranges, but I’m just writing to say that if you’re in the right time zone to still attend today, I recommend it. February 11, 2016 at 12:49 pm #309003Anonymous
GuestAnn wrote:Long story, but I ended up at Catholic mass (Mass?) today with one of my kids who was interested in going. I think mass and sacrament meeting are apples and oranges, but I’m just writing to say that if you’re in the right time zone to still attend today, I recommend it.
I went to Catholic Mass for the first time two years ago. I got to attend in a beautiful cathedral, the architecture was inspiring (I’m a nerd that way). I’d also recommend attending.
I’ve never tried to do Lent. I guess I missed the boat this year… or I could pick something I haven’t done since Tuesday and roll with it.
:angel: February 11, 2016 at 3:27 pm #309004Anonymous
GuestAnn wrote:Long story, but I ended up at Catholic mass (Mass?) today with one of my kids who was interested in going. I think mass and sacrament meeting are apples and oranges, but I’m just writing to say that if you’re in the right time zone to still attend today, I recommend it.
Nice!
I took my daughter a couple years ago to mass and was glad we did it. I did not start with a mindset of “this building is big and cold and empty and lacks the spirit”…but I started with a blank slate and just observed to see how things are done. The sound was wonderful, the ritual feeling was interesting, to see people kneeling and praying and many crying was touching to me. It was a good experience. I like religion.
February 11, 2016 at 3:28 pm #309005Anonymous
GuestDarkJedi wrote:http://time.com/3714056/pope-francis-lent-2015-fasting/http://time.com/3714056/pope-francis-lent-2015-fasting/” class=”bbcode_url”> This made the rounds on social media, but I really like this message:
Quote:“No act of virtue can be great if it is not followed by advantage for others. So, no matter how much time you spend fasting, no matter how much you sleep on a hard floor and eat ashes and sigh continually,
if you do no good to others, you do nothing great.”
DJ…great thought. It is what it all boils down to.February 11, 2016 at 6:09 pm #309006Anonymous
GuestI like that quote, too, DJ. There was actually very little reference to exactly how to observe Lent, but as a stranger I was struck by and enjoyed so many other things:
– The quiet. We arrived about ten minutes early, and by start time there were probably 400 people there, but you wouldn’t know it from the sound. Except for coughing and some baby noise, it was temple-quiet.
– The dress had nothing to do with the reverence. This was a downtown church before the end of a weekday and people were there in whatever they put on that morning.
– The music. We sang seven times. Heaven.
– The orderliness. The whole sanctuary emptied out twice during the mass, once to receive ashes and later to receive the Eucharist. (If that’s the right way to say it.) Again, total quiet.
– The focus. No ward business, no off-topic talks, just Christ. They must have that elsewhere at other times, but I’ve always wished sacrament meeting was more focused.
– The physicality of it: up, down, hands out, hands up, hands shaking bench neighbor’s hand.
– The reminder. Easter is forty days away.
My daughter’s comment walking back to the car was that she felt very humbled. Content-wise, there were lots of reminders of our own sinfulness and need to repent, but since it was always couched in the certainty of being forgiven, it didn’t seem too negative.
I saw an embarrassing article in LDS Living later at night, all about why Mormons don’t observe Lent, complete with a photo of a Catholic priest and parishioner . Wow. Offensive, I’d say.
February 11, 2016 at 6:40 pm #309007Anonymous
GuestAnn wrote:I saw an embarrassing article in LDS Living later at night, all about why Mormons don’t observe Lent, complete with a photo of a Catholic priest and parishioner . Wow. Offensive, I’d say.
I saw that article this morning. Boiled down, we don’t do Lent because it’s an invention of man. What a coincidence, that’s the same reason why I refuse to use indoor plumbing.
:eh: But seriously, if “invention of man” is the barometer why was I spending 6+ hours at church on Sundays at one point in my life?Where they were critical of the ashen cross being visible on people’s foreheads the “eternal smile” stood up and smacked me across the face. My white shirt says hello.
The article made me think of that 60 minutes interview from the 90s where Orrin Hatch talked about how he wears a Mezuzah. There’s room for anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy. To me Lent is just that.
If there are save two churches only and it truly isn’t a reference to any one particular church I hope we can start to make room for all the good that takes place outside of the church.
I don’t think that article intended to be insensitive, it was just answering a question about why Mormons don’t do Lent and it’s hard for that to not come out wrong. Maybe a better answer would be to say that some Mormons do participate in Lent.
February 11, 2016 at 7:13 pm #309008Anonymous
GuestIt seems like Catholics don’t do fast sundays each month, we don’t do lent each year…and that’s ok, right? What about Christmas, Easter, Mother’s Day, etc? We do have some things in common. I mean, it is just stuff we decide to do to try to practice our faith. I think they are all inventions of men. And like the Lord touched The Brother of Jared’s stone and made it light…it can be blessed by God for the inventions of men if they are doing it with pure hearts and hands.
Us vs them mentality is an invention of man.
February 11, 2016 at 10:35 pm #309009Anonymous
GuestI was pretty offended by that article as well, Ann. How dare other Christians do anything the true church doesn’t do! That’s it, I’m not celebrating Pioneer Day anymore – talk about man-made! Oh, wait, I don’t celebrate Pioneer day anyway. I do celebrate Mother’s Day, including the church part. And what about Christmas? Do the scriptures talk about celebrating Christ’s birth? Didn’t Catholics essentially invent that idea (i.e. Christ Mass)? I’m done venting (more or less).
February 14, 2016 at 4:40 am #309010Anonymous
GuestIt was inspiring to see so many people at the Catholic university where I work after the Ash Wednesday mass, with the cross on their foreheads. We like to make a big deal out of our worship elements, but my dedicated Catholic friends wear their religion more visually than most of my dedicated Mormon friends. That is neither a good nor bad thing; it simply is what it is.
February 16, 2016 at 2:10 pm #309011Anonymous
GuestI’m actually surprised at how many of my TBM friends have mentioned giving things up for Lent. I think it’s a good idea and we clearly aren’t above borrowing good things from other religions – just look at our hymn book. Me, I’m using this as an excuse to (hopefully) kick my Diet Coke problem.
February 16, 2016 at 5:18 pm #309012Anonymous
GuestJoni, Interesting to read that Lent appeals to a fair number of us. Old-Timer wrote:It was inspiring to see so many people at the Catholic university where I work after the Ash Wednesday mass, with the cross on their foreheads.
We like to make a big deal out of our worship elements, but my dedicated Catholic friends wear their religion more visually than most of my dedicated Mormon friends. That is neither a good nor bad thing; it simply is what it is.
I think what irks me about the LDSLiving article is that we all know we’d turn on a dime if instructed. If the word came down that we will observe Lent, we’d be all over it. We would embrace it and find meaning.
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