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    If you haven’t pre-ordered Adam Miller’s new book, it is fantastic. Here’s my review: https://bycommonconsent.com/2016/05/13/book-review-adam-millers-future-mormon/

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    Thanks Hawkgrrl. I am a bit nervous after reading Planted. (I know he wasn’t the author, I am just gun shy about getting my hopes up.)

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    Thanks for a great review. Glad to know I’m not the only one who stumbles around in Adam-land.

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    Often, those who leave the church are derailed by either the unsavory past (or the white-washed presentation of it they received in seminary) or aspects of the present that are inhospitable. But what about the future? That’s the undiscovered country, and we can co-create it, or so these essays imply.

    We talk a lot about being co-creators with God, and to Mormon ears it’s never blasphemy. But somehow talking about co-creating the church with our leaders is. The details matter, of course, but if there are going to be any future Mormons, I think we need to be able to acknowledge each other as co-creators.

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    hawkgrrrl wrote:

    If you haven’t pre-ordered Adam Miller’s new book, it is fantastic. Here’s my review: https://bycommonconsent.com/2016/05/13/book-review-adam-millers-future-mormon/

    My copy just came. I have much higher hopes for understanding this one.

    Here’s the table of contents:

    A General Theory of Grace

    Burnt Offerings: Reading 1 Nephi 1

    Reading Signs or Repeating Symptoms: Reading Jacob 7

    Early Onset Postmortaility

    The God Who Weeps: Notes, Amens, and Disagreements

    A Radical Mormon Materialism: Reading Wrestling the Angel

    Reflections on President Uchtdorf’s “The Gift of Grace”

    A Manifesto for the Future of Mormon Thinking

    Network Theology : Is it Possible to be a Christian but not a Platonist?*

    Jesus, Trauma, and Psychoanalytic Technique

    Every Truth is a Work, Every Object is a Covenant

    The Body of Christ

    Silence, Witness, and Absolute Rock: Reading Cormac McCarthy

    *I haven’t been wondering about this.

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    truths are bigger than we can imagine. They cannot be confined to our own limited perspective. . . . A truth that is small enough to be thinkable only from my position and only in opposition to my enemy is no truth at all.

    A great quote!

    Thanks for the review.

    Do you think he chose the title because he assumes that is where mormonism must head towards to stay relevant to the new generation? Moving away from literal histories?

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    Heber13 – yes, that’s roughly what he says in his intro:

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    Every generation must work out its own salvation. Every generation must live its own lives and think its own thoughts and receive its own revelations. And, if Mormonism continues to matter, it will be because they, rather than leaving, were willing to be Mormon all over again.

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    hawkgrrrl wrote:

    Heber13 – yes, that’s roughly what he says in his intro:

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    Every generation must work out its own salvation. Every generation must live its own lives and think its own thoughts and receive its own revelations. And, if Mormonism continues to matter, it will be because they, rather than leaving, were willing to be Mormon all over again.

    For me the question is what does it mean to be a Mormon. It’s not what it meant in Nauvoo or in the early days in the valley and it’s not what it meant at the time of the manifestos. I’m not even sure it means what it meant back in the 60’s when I was a missionary. You can define it for yourself and then, I guess, hope that it doesn’t differ too much from the way your ward/branch sees it. I remember a quote by Thomas Merton about how the gospel had to be made new for each person and in each generation. Maybe something like that.

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    GBSmith wrote:

    It’s not what it meant in Nauvoo or in the early days in the valley and it’s not what it meant at the time of the manifestos.

    Yes…I agree. Completely. And…what it is today for the LGBT community is not what it will be in the future.

    For me, the question is…if it becomes redefined in the lives of the new generations…will it provide meaning and value? TBD.

    The only way I can see it will is to have people begin to embrace the ideas of symbolic and allegorical teaching…not literal historical claims. Let Joseph and Brigham’s actions stand by themselves…and look ahead for truth…not be stuck in the past to retrofit everything to something Joseph said in the swamps of Illinois.

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    Some of my favorite quotes:

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    We should begin, then with creation. In the beginning there was grace. God’s creative work is the most fundamental expression of his grace, of his willingness to freely give what cannot be earned or deserved.

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    The point of the law is love. And while obedience is generally better than disobedience, obedience in itself cannot fulfill the law. Only love can fulfill the law.

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    Obedience to the law, valorized on its own terms, becomes an obstacle to fulfilling the law’s purpose in love.

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    Nice mom. You move this book up on my list to get

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