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    Just yesterday I went with my wife to a screening of a Kirk Cameron documentary style movie that attempted to answer the question “why to bad things happen to good people.”

    It reminded me of this old seminary video of Elder Packer comparing the plan of salvation to a 3 act play. (you can watch it on YouTube)

    In a 1995 fireside address to young adults, President Boyd K. Packer, Acting President of the Quorum of the Twelve, said:

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    “The course of our mortal life, from birth to death, conforms to eternal law and follows a plan described in the revelations as the great plan of happiness. The one idea, the one truth I would inject into your minds, is this: There are three parts to the plan. You are in the second or the middle part, the one in which you will be tested by temptation, by trials, perhaps by tragedy. Understand that and you will be better able to make sense of life and to resist the disease of doubt and despair and depression.

    “The plan of redemption, with its three divisions, might be likened to a grand three-act play. Act 1 is entitled ‘Premortal Life.’ The scriptures describe it as our first estate (see Jude 1:6; Abraham 3:26, 28). Act 2, from birth to the time of resurrection, is the ‘Second Estate.’ And act 3 is called ‘Life After Death’ or ‘Eternal Life.’

    “In mortality, we are like actors who enter a theater just as the curtain goes up on the second act. We have missed act 1. The production has many plots and subplots that interweave, making it difficult to figure out who relates to whom and what relates to what, who are the heroes and who are the villains. It is further complicated because we are not just spectators; we are members of the cast, on stage, in the middle of it all!” (The Play and the Plan [CES fireside for young adults, May 7, 1995], 1–2).

    The idea is that life (and our role in it) will make much more sense if we know the play script – to be found in the SCRIPTures. In the Seminary video Elder packer says that things might happen in the second act that seem wrong to us. He said that we should remember that it is only in the third act that when these seeming injustices will make more sense all live “happily ever after.”

    I played around with this three act play to describe what I believe.

    Imagine that you and 20 other people find yourselves transported with amnesia to a deserted island. You do not know where you are, who you are, who put you there, and what you are expected to do. Over time you develop relationships with the other 20 islanders. you work together to build a sort of civil society. Some put forward theories as to who is behind this whole island experiment and what it is designed to achieve. You find such theories interesting but not hugely pressing to your life. Life as you know it is this desert island. Why ask why? Over time you marry and have kids. Suddenly a fatal illness sweeps over the island. While you survive, your spouse and children die. Suddenly these questions take on new urgency. Why are you on this island? What are you supposed to do here? Was the disease and death part of the plan? What lesson is supposed to be learned by all this?

    Fast forward many many years. Generations have come and gone on this desert island. The theories once proposed by the original inhabitants to give meaning to their experience have been written down and survive to this day as holy writings. Many take comfort and a sense of purpose from these writings. Whole churches have grown up for the purpose of interpreting and expounding upon the holy writ. Every once in a while a new church springs forward with a new take and perspective on those ancient stories. People are born, live, and die grappling with the same basic questions.

    To compare this to Elder Packer’s analogy, the whole history of man is contained in the second act of the play. We are born with no knowledge of anything that might have preceded our coming into the world and becoming self aware. We do not know anything for sure about if there ever was a “first act” to help explain things. We similarly do not know if there is anything to come after our current existence – a “third act” where justice will reign and we will be rewarded according to our faith and diligence in act two. We do not know for certain if there ever will come a “happily ever after.”

    Why bad things happen to good people is sort of a pet interest of mine. I am fascinated by the different answers that different churches and individuals give to this very question. Many of them are reasonably good answers. They give to their adherents a sense of hope and purpose and meaning. If they do that then perhaps they are all true in the sense that they do their job and are effective in helping people make sense of the human condition.

    As is stated in my signature line:

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    “It is not so much the pain and suffering of life which crushes the individual as it is its meaninglessness and hopelessness.” C. A. Elwood

    “It is not the function of religion to answer all the questions about God’s moral government of the universe, but to give one courage, through faith, to go on in the face of questions he never finds the answer to in his present status.” TPC: Harold B. Lee 223

    “I struggle now with establishing my faith that God may always be there, but may not always need to intervene” Heber13

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    Roy – Great question. For me I think my need for meaning of life changed after I read Tuesdays With Morrie. I found it a good decade before FC and have appreciated it’s ideas more deeply since passing through this “vale of tears”.

    The various 3rd act answers don’t fulfill me now. My imagination of the 3rd act takes my full faith. It has no kingdom’s or other things, just connections with loved ones and endless hours to ask questions, continue relationships, and pursue interests. It’s all I’ve got right now.

    Otherwise this life feels like Lord of the Flies.

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    To put it another way.

    Some people wake up and say – “Man this human condition is tough stuff – full of unfairness and sorrow.”

    Other people say – “Well to understand why life is the way it use we need to go back to the beginning and discuss why God created the world and the human experience the way that he did. What was his purpose in creating it this way?” God obviously wanted it to be the way that it is otherwise He would have created it differently.

    Similar to the LDS Priesthood Ban. Because the ban exists it must be as God wants, therefore it should be explained, rationalized, and defended.

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    Roy wrote:

    Why bad things happen to good people is sort of a pet interest of mine. I am fascinated by the different answers that different churches and individuals give to this very question. Many of them are reasonably good answers. They give to their adherents a sense of hope and purpose and meaning. If they do that then perhaps they are all true in the sense that they do their job and are effective in helping people make sense of the human condition.

    Mark Twain wrote:

    It’s no wonder truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction has to make sense.

    For whatever reason the movie Stranger than Fiction popped in my head. In the movie Will Ferrell is hearing a voice in his head and whatever the voice says comes true. Ferrell is frightened when one day the voice in his head talks about his impending demise. The voice sounds like someone narrating a novel so he ends up seeking help from a literature professor to see if he can somehow take control of the narrative (or maybe validate that he’s not crazy). The professor asks Ferrell a series of questions in order to determine whether Ferrell is involved in a comedy or tragedy.

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    mom3 wrote:

    For me I think my need for meaning of life changed after I read Tuesdays With Morrie.

    I really enjoyed that book also, mom3.

    mom3 wrote:

    The various 3rd act answers don’t fulfill me now. My imagination of the 3rd act takes my full faith. It has no kingdom’s or other things, just connections with loved ones and endless hours to ask questions, continue relationships, and pursue interests. It’s all I’ve got right now.

    I like this view, and also like to focus on right now.

    The 3 act play can be one way to look at things and have purpose and meaning.

    But honestly, how much of Act 1 really matters to us now? Perhaps for a while in my life I did like to feel like I was included in Abr.3:22-25, I was a noble soul. I was important and I was special, that these last days were my time to fight and show my worth. I think that helped me for a time. It doesn’t speak to me today like it did in my youth.

    The Power of Myth was meaningful to me to help me let go of literal thoughts, and change my paradigm on the meaning of life.

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    “People say that what we’re all seeking is a meaning for life. I don’t think that’s what we’re really seeking. I think that what we’re seeking is an experience of being alive, so that our life experiences on the purely physical plane will have resonances with our own innermost being and reality, so that we actually feel the rapture of being alive.”

    -Joseph Campbell

    So much of the meaning and purpose of things in this life that I experience are tied to relationships and exchanges with others in this world. How many acts before or after, I don’t know. But…today is the day I have to experience being alive. Sometimes those experiences suck. I don’t get to choose them all. I don’t get to understand them all. Sometimes there is a lot that happens that has zero meaning to me at all. It just is what it is. Much of church is trying to find a story to explain things, and sometimes that is too much story.

    Not everything fits nice and neatly into one version of the truth. It varies by person, by situation, by time, by perspective. The meaning of things is what we choose to put on to it.

    As humans, we seek to put meaning on things, and sometimes do that too much that we forget to be living today and experiencing our present form or act of the play.

    The desert island analogy is worthwhile and a good story. As is the 3 act play. They are not worthless. But are shadows of the most important things in our lives.

    It is good to be seeking, and asking, and looking…as we seek to be present today.

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