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    amateurparent
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    When my oldest daughter died, I had people offer us white dresses for her burial. We were touched that people would offer, but we chose to bury her in one of her favorite outfits.

    This got me thinking ..

    I have informed my husband and children that when I die, I do not want to be buried in temple clothing. I didn’t enjoy the temple in life, the clothes look odd, and I would prefer to be buried in something that I looked better in.

    Being buried in temple clothing is such a tradition .. But in my mind, it serves no purpose. I feel that we are not resurrected in the clothes we die in, being in temple clothes doesn’t jump us ahead in line and there isn’t a different queue. A relative wanted his father buried in old fashioned one piece garments with full length legs and arms. He felt they were somehow more sacred. It was a good thing to do because it brought that son comfort, but I don’t think it mattered to God.

    Our dead are buried in such a way that they face East .. Facing the direction from which Christ is supposed to return. So much symbolism. Does it matter?

    I do love the tradition of dedicating the grave. I think a funeral service and honoring the dead is important. It’s just clothes and grave direction that doesn’t make sense to me.

    Any thoughts?

    #313067
    Anonymous
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    I’ve requested to not be buried in temple clothing, well I want to be cremated but there’s probably going to be a viewing and I don’t want to be in temple clothing for that.

    I’ve been to an LDS funeral and seen the clothing and how it is presented during the viewing, it’s respectable and given how you’re only on display from the waist up you would just about have to know what the clothing was to identify it as temple clothing. Maybe they use a little higher quality clothing than the ill-fitted stuff I typically wear to the temple, maybe the material behaves a little better when it’s placed on something that is immobile (the clothing can be sculpted instead of utilitarian). Either way the clothing didn’t look “bad” for the viewing.

    For burial… I wouldn’t want to be buried in temple clothing and have some archaeologist digging me up in 10,000 years and getting the wrong idea about me. :D

    Bottom line, temple clothing just isn’t me. If you want to bury me in something that is me make sure it has an elastic waistband… much more comfy for lounging around.

    amateurparent wrote:

    Our dead are buried in such a way that they face East .. Facing the direction from which Christ is supposed to return. So much symbolism. Does it matter?

    That’s a traditional Christian thing. If it was a LDS specific thing that would make for an interesting discussion with the people that run grave sites. No, I want them buried at this angle. And it throws off their whole layout. Now you’ve seeded a doubt. I wonder if all grave sites are oriented like this or if we just assume it’s facing east and that’s good enough. Who brings the compass when planning the funeral to make sure the symbolism is preserved?

    My bigger question is who is the funeral for, the living or the dead? This might become an issue where there are differences between what the family wants and what the departed wanted. E.g. I don’t want to be buried in temple clothing but the people that plan my funeral feel really strongly that I should be.

    I lean towards the funeral being for the living, it puts my wishes into perspective.

    #313068
    Anonymous
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    An old stalwart of our ward recently passed away and I was asked to help dress him in his temple clothes. I had never done it before but I didn’t mind. The clothes were his own, something that’s probably more common now because more of us own our own clothes because of the smaller temples. I do recall from my days in the bishopric that there are a couple extra sets of robes, etc., in the bishop’s office in case a deceased member doesn’t have their own.

    That said, I don’t get it either. I’m not much of a funeral person, there are lots of things I don’t get about them – like why do people want to go look at a corpse supposedly as a way to honor them? Anyway, I do recognize that funerals are for the living and not for the dead but I still don’t want one and also desire to be cremated. If not cremated, put me in a cardboard box without embalming (or bury me in the garden next to the stupid lion) and unto dust shall I return. If there is a physical resurrection, I don’t believe it is the same body we have now including the clothing. I also recognize others believe differently.

    #313069
    Anonymous
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    This might be a bit morbid, I was thinking that maybe we should be buried the same way we came into the world: no clothes. Keep the lid closed, please.

    #313070
    Anonymous
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    I want a green burial. It’s cheaper and better for the environment (no casket & the body is harvested for organs). There is no way the polyester temple dress is green. Besides, I feel like amateur parent. I don’t enjoy the temple because it’s so sexist, so why would I want my corpse to be wrapped in the ugliest dress I own, a symbol of a woman’s secondary status in the church?

    #313071
    Anonymous
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    My will lays out two options, based on a general census of the living family’s wishes: 1- Cremation, and ashes spread in a specific place that is meaningful to me. 2- If a majority of the family feels strongly against cremation, then I have specified that I want to be buried in a t-shirt and shorts. No temple clothes, no garments. And, I don’t want a public viewing. How’s that for being picky?! 😆

    #313072
    Anonymous
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    hawkgrrrl wrote:

    I want a green burial. It’s cheaper and better for the environment (no casket & the body is harvested for organs). There is no way the polyester temple dress is green. Besides, I feel like amateur parent. I don’t enjoy the temple because it’s so sexist, so why would I want my corpse to be wrapped in the ugliest dress I own, a symbol of a woman’s secondary status in the church?

    I know you don’t want to be buried in temple clothes at all, but I did want to point out that when I was studying up on dressing the guy I discovered there are biodegradable temple clothes available for such circumstances.

    #313073
    Anonymous
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    I like the symbolism and probably will be buried in them, especially since it will be important to much of my extended and immediate family, but I couldn’t care less if others want to be buried in hula skirts and Speedos. Frankly, my own wish would be to be cremated in my temple clothing. I can see lots of people’s heads exploding over that one, and my sense of humor would enjoy making that happen.

    Just like so much else, it’s all symbolic, so I am in favor of whatever each person wants.

    #313074
    Anonymous
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    I told my family that since I’ll be dead that I don’t care how I’m buried. I did say I’d like to be buried in a casket that looks like a batmobile. Seriously I don’t care.

    #313075
    Anonymous
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    But is there something in our doctrine that dictates that we be buried in temple clothing?

    I’ve helped to dress 3 deceased sisters, all in temple clothing. It wasn’t weird – just sort of what was expected.

    And, Ray, one of these sweet sisters was cremated after we were done. So, it does happen. ;)

    But now that this thread has popped up, I wonder…is there really an option?

    ‘Cause I think of my husband…if he dies in the line of duty, I’d sure like to see him in his Class A uniform – and so would his crews.

    Me? I’m not sure yet, but like other females here, I don’t like the temple now. It really isn’t something in my life, so it would feel forced for me to wear temple clothing.

    That said, if we somehow knew that the Lord himself has asked that we use temple clothing for burials, then things may change.

    Also, there is the option of placing the temple packet of clothing inside the casket if, for some reason, the body cannot be dressed. I could go for that option.

    #313076
    Anonymous
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    QuestionAbound wrote:

    But is there something in our doctrine that dictates that we be buried in temple clothing?

    I believe it’s more of a tradition thing than a doctrine thing. Of course we believe that the endowment is both for this life and for the next life but that doesn’t mean we lounge around the house in temple clothing all day. I think it stems from the belief that the endowment is really instruction that allows us to pass literal angels that serve as literal sentinels. Even then it’s a bit odd. Does the resurrection cover clothing as well? If not I’d rather pick up a “fresh pack” of clothing. Then there’s the cremation thing.

    It’s probably more for the family. They see their loved one buried in temple clothing and it might be another way of saying that all things were square between the deceased and the lord. Kind of like a more visible way of saying the deceased died with a TR… even in cases where they didn’t have one. In other words, the person was buried in temple clothing, they are worthy, I have my peace of mind concerning the state of their soul.

    QuestionAbound wrote:

    But now that this thread has popped up, I wonder…is there really an option?

    Here’s the language from the handbook. The first sentence also appears in handbook 2, Section 9.10.3.

    Handbook 1 :: 3.4.9 Temple Burial Clothing wrote:

    If possible, deceased members who were endowed should be buried in temple clothing. If cultural traditions or burial practices make this inappropriate or difficult, the clothing may be folded and placed next to the body in the casket.

    And later in that same section:

    Handbook 1 :: 3.4.9 Temple Burial Clothing wrote:

    The Church does not normally encourage cremation. However, if the body of an endowed member is being cremated, it should be dressed in temple clothing if possible.

    It’s my opinion that the word “should” provides people the option to do what they want.

    #313077
    Anonymous
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    It is up to the person and the family.

    It is suggested policy – nothing more.

    #313078
    Anonymous
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    Having an earthly burial has never been a requirement for a heavenly resurrection. Therefore, the type of clothing placed on a corpse will have zero impact on our prospects for heavenly glory. Still, when active, temple-endowed Latter-day Saints die, most are attired in temple clothing in their coffins. Here are 11 thoughts about why it is perfectly fine—even preferable—NOT to dress corpses in temple clothing.

    1. In the unlikely event that temple clothes are actually required on the other side, every worthy person will receive them. Being buried in regular clothing won’t hurt the worthy, and being buried in temple clothing won’t help the unworthy. It simply doesn’t matter to a just God whether someone’s body was buried in a clown suit, burned to ashes, lost at sea, eaten by wolves or blown to smithereens.

    2. Any temple clothing provided in the next life will be superior to what was produced on earth and will not wear out.

    3. Any temple clothing made on the other side will be in the correct heavenly style. (Most temple-goers today wouldn’t be caught dead in the styles of the late 1800s.)

    4. We anticipate that in the Resurrection our bodies will be in the prime of life. If this is indeed the case, temple clothing (or any other clothing) that fits the bodies of worn-out, creaky old dead people is unlikely to fit the body of a vibrant resurrected being. It will need to be replaced.

    5. Jesus was not buried in temple clothing, nor were most of the great prophets.

    6. When Peter and John arrived in the tomb, they discovered that Christ had left behind his burial clothing. Yet, when he later appeared to Magdalene and to other disciples, the risen Lord was clothed. By discarding burial clothing made in this world, Jesus was perhaps telling us that clothing made on earth stays on earth. He is also telling us that clothing (temple or otherwise) is available on the other side.

    7. We believe that children who die before the age of 8 go directly to the celestial kingdom—and not a one of them ever wore temple clothing.

    8. Temple clothing made in heaven will not have been exposed to a corpse for an extended period of time.

    9. Instead of adorning the dead, maybe temple clothing would better be donated for use by the living. For Latter-day Saints who feel uneasy about using clothing left behind by a person who has died, be assured that such clothing is completely decoffinated.

    10. To non-LDS people who attend LDS funerals, temple clothing looks more weird than sacred. Putting it on public display may not be such a good idea, which explains why it often is covered during viewings.

    11. Familial conflicts over whether to dress the deceased in temple clothing would be eliminated if everyone recognized that it is best for dead bodies not be dressed in temple clothing and that clothing made on earth is not and never will be a requirement for heavenly glory.

    #313079
    Anonymous
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    I have asked my family to be buried in a batman casket and batman outfit. Either that or a plastic bag because it doesn’t matter much.

    #313080
    Anonymous
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    I couldn’t care less if others want to be buried in hula skirts and Speedos

    I’m just glad we don’t wear hula skirts and speedos to the temple.

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