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We did Lesson 15 today in elders quorum. Here are the 1st two paragraphs from the lesson:
Howard W. Hunter was raised by an active Latter-day Saint mother and a good father who was not then affiliated with any church. His father did not object to the family’s participation in the Church—he even attended sacrament meetings with them occasionally—but he did not want his children to be baptized when they were 8 years old. He felt that they should not make that decision until they were older. When Howard turned 12, he could not receive the Aaronic Priesthood and be ordained a deacon because he had not been baptized.
Even though he was able to participate with the young men in other activities, Howard was deeply disappointed that he could not pass the sacrament with them.“I sat in sacrament meetings with the other boys,” he recalled. “When it was time for them to pass the sacrament, I would slump down in my seat.
I felt so left out.I wanted to pass the sacrament, but couldn’t because I had not been baptized.”1 When this was read I’ll I could think about was how some children of gay parents might feel when they are not able to get baptized or receive the priesthood.
Yeah, it really jumps out at you. To that I would add… all girls are in the same boat but we tend to forget about them because of the traditions we’ve grown accustomed to. A boy that doesn’t pass the sacrament is culturally out of place, a girl? They fall through the cracks because they can be culturally invisible. There’s more discussion about chapter 15, including the point you raise, in this thread:
http://forum.staylds.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7671 ” class=”bbcode_url”> http://forum.staylds.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=7671 Thanks for the link Nibbler. I hadn’t read that thread. sdj wrote:We did Lesson 15 today in elders quorum.
Here are the 1st two paragraphs from the lesson:
Howard W. Hunter was raised by an active Latter-day Saint mother and a good father who was not then affiliated with any church. His father did not object to the family’s participation in the Church—he even attended sacrament meetings with them occasionally—but he did not want his children to be baptized when they were 8 years old. He felt that they should not make that decision until they were older. When Howard turned 12, he could not receive the Aaronic Priesthood and be ordained a deacon because he had not been baptized.
Even though he was able to participate with the young men in other activities, Howard was deeply disappointed that he could not pass the sacrament with them.“I sat in sacrament meetings with the other boys,” he recalled. “When it was time for them to pass the sacrament, I would slump down in my seat.
I felt so left out.I wanted to pass the sacrament, but couldn’t because I had not been baptized.”1 When this was read I’ll I could think about was how some children of gay parents might feel when they are not able to get baptized or receive the priesthood.
Superb example. Interestingly, I bet nobody tried to convince him that he was “blessed” by being “allowed” to have more time to think about getting baptized.I’m curious about any comments the class members may have had on the subject, or did they all just fail to make the connection?
Katzpur wrote:Superb example. Interestingly, I bet nobody tried to convince him that he was “blessed” by being “allowed” to have more time to think about getting baptized.
I’m curious about any comments the class members may have had on the subject, or did they all just fail to make the connection?
There were no comments making the connection with the Nov. Policy. That was just the first thing that came to my mind when I heard it. It was a good lesson and many people shared personal experiences of why the sacrament was important to them. I was able to share an experience I had as a Priest. I lived in a ward that was half comprised of a retirement community. There were 5-6 that needed the sacrament taken to them each week. I grew very close to those people and found greater appreciation for the sacrament as a teenager.
Nobody is going to make that connection unless they already are aware of and upset by the policy. While valid, it isn’t a natural connection for someone to make independent of such a pre-existing view.
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