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    AmyJ
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    I got a cute little email today stating that both degrees I was looking at taking are being discontinued…

    So I have no idea what I am going to do. CORRECTION: I need to continue my education, but I will need to look into other ways of doing so.

    It boils down to the following:

    1. Pick a different BYU-Idaho Online degree and pray the powers that be don’t yank that one too.

    2. Find a different online degree program.

    Any assistance provided by educational gurus here is helpful please :P

    I am looking for information on how to locate an online program that is accredited that I can afford (for starters)…

    Sorry for the disjointed thoughts, still reeling…

    #328807
    Anonymous
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    I haven’t checked their prices, but Walden University has a good reputation in the online education world, as does Southern New Hampshire University. Grand Canyon University had some good online programs a few years ago, but I don’t know if that has changed. They are big on preaching the prosperity Gospel, which really bugged me, so I would suggest the other two first.

    You also might want to check Utah State Unversity and Southern Utah University. I have no idea about any online degrees, but they should be relatively cheap.

    Avoid the University of Phoenix.

    #328808
    Anonymous
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    Just curious, what degree were you hoping for? What else would you be interested in doing?

    If you are interested in web development, trucking/logistics, or spreading manure on a large scale (it pays very well), I might be able to help you out.

    #328809
    Anonymous
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    The pathways degree program was not that old. Does anybody know why it is being discontinued? Is it financial (as in it was not covering expenses)? or possibly watering down the perceived value of a BYU degree?

    Anybody have any insight?

    #328810
    Anonymous
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    AmyJ wrote:


    I am looking for information on how to locate an online program that is accredited that I can afford (for starters)…

    I went through California Coast University. It is nationally accredited but not regionally accredited. From what I understand national accreditation meets the minimum standards for federal jobs (meaning that if the job you are applying for requires a degree and you have a degree from a nationally accredited school, you meet that minimum standard). However, there are big differences between national and regional accreditation and you should be aware of the limitations of not having a regionally accredited degree.

    I believe Curt would warn you against going nationally accredited. I believe what you should do can depend on what you want to do with your degree. In some sense you can get what you pay for. Anyway, I believe your request was for referrals to regionally accredited online schools. Therefore I will get off my soapbox.

    I am sorry to see the Pathways program go. From my understanding it was a bargain and a true service to the people enrolled in the program.

    #328811
    Anonymous
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    From what I understand Roy Pathways itself is not being cut nor are all degrees/certificates. Just some are being cut.

    #328812
    Anonymous
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    Hi AmyJ,

    That really sucks. I’m sorry you’re going through this. Unfortunately I can’t find a list anywhere of which programs were cut. There seems to be a decent list of programs that are still available. I have a couple of suggestions / questions.

  • Did BYU-PW (Pathways) give you any options about transferring to a somewhat similar degree or certificate?
  • Can you ask any BYU-PW advisor what options you have? If there is a similar degree or certificate you may be able to continue in Pathways without losing much time.

  • Where are you located? You can direct message me if you like. Arizona State University is expanding its relationship with BYU-PW and I wonder if you could take ASU classes either online or on campus.
  • Are there any local community colleges that might accept some transferred classes?
  • If you can transfer classes, for example general education classes within BYU-PW, honestly I’d consider pick a somewhat related degree or certificate and run with it. Some degrees are flexible and you just have to get a degree in something vaguely related. For example jobs looking for a business degree would probably take business, finance, accounting, marketing, CIS, and economics. Nursing and web design and some others, not so much so that doesn’t always work. I’m not sure what you’re going into.
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Anonymous
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SilentDawning wrote:


AmyJ wrote:


I got a cute little email today stating that both degrees I was looking at taking are being discontinued…

So I have no idea what I am going to do. CORRECTION: I need to continue my education, but I will need to look into other ways of doing so.

It boils down to the following:

1. Pick a different BYU-Idaho Online degree and pray the powers that be don’t yank that one too.

2. Find a different online degree program.

Any assistance provided by educational gurus here is helpful please :P

I am looking for information on how to locate an online program that is accredited that I can afford (for starters)…

Sorry for the disjointed thoughts, still reeling…


Can you clarify — are they leaving you hanging mid stream? Meaning, they aren’t “teaching out” the program so you can at least finish? Or are they cancelling the program leaving you with nothing but a few courses and credits?

And did they provide options, such as some kind of articulation agreement with say, BYU-I?

#328814
Anonymous
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I work in this field….I have a few suggestions when looking for a program…

1) Do a search on career builder for the positions you are interested in. Look at what degrees they are requiring. Too many people pursue a program and then find the ladder is leaning against the wrong wall.

2) Go for Regional Accreditation – National Accreditation isn’t as respected as Regional Accreditation.

3) Look for programmatic accreditation as well. Some programs have programmatic accreditation — for Business it’s ACBSP or AACSB, for Project Management, it’s PMI-GAC accreditation, and for Electronics Engineering it’s TAC of ABET. Not that those are your programs, but those are ones I’m familiar with.

What degrees are you interested in? You can private message me if you aren’t comfortable sharing details like this in the open forum.

#328815
Anonymous
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dande48 wrote:


Just curious, what degree were you hoping for? What else would you be interested in doing?

I need to increase my generic AA from 18 years ago to a BA or a BS.

I am passionate about healthcare, mental health/developmental processes, and helping others. My current background is Digital Media/Grants Management software, so I have been thinking of something along those lines. I don’t want to be a counselor, but maybe an office manager in a counseling center would be cool.

I saw myself getting a BS in Healthcare Administration maybe minoring in Public Health and saw myself becoming a program coordinator for programs in the mental health/employment/governmental agencies areas.

dande48 wrote:


If you are interested in web development, trucking/logistics, or spreading manure on a large scale (it pays very well), I might be able to help you out.

I currently run the technical support help desk for a grants management software company. It is draining, but I have some flexibility when not taking calls, and the pay I feel is generous for what I actually do.

#328816
Anonymous
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Roy wrote:


I went through California Coast University. It is nationally accredited but not regionally accredited. From what I understand national accreditation meets the minimum standards for federal jobs (meaning that if the job you are applying for requires a degree and you have a degree from a nationally accredited school, you meet that minimum standard). However, there are big differences between national and regional accreditation and you should be aware of the limitations of not having a regionally accredited degree.

I believe Curt would warn you against going nationally accredited. I believe what you should do can depend on what you want to do with your degree. In some sense you can get what you pay for. Anyway, I believe your request was for referrals to regionally accredited online schools. Therefore I will get off my soapbox.

I am sorry to see the Pathways program go. From my understanding it was a bargain and a true service to the people enrolled in the program.

So what are the acronmyns for national and regional accreditation respectively?

#328817
Anonymous
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DarkJedi wrote:


From what I understand Roy Pathways itself is not being cut nor are all degrees/certificates. Just some are being cut.

Correct. The program itself is not being cut – just the 2 programs I am seriously interested in.

#328818
Anonymous
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Roadrunner wrote:


Hi AmyJ,

That really sucks. I’m sorry you’re going through this. Unfortunately I can’t find a list anywhere of which programs were cut. There seems to be a decent list of programs that are still available. I have a couple of suggestions / questions.

  • Did BYU-PW (Pathways) give you any options about transferring to a somewhat similar degree or certificate?
  • Can you ask any BYU-PW advisor what options you have? If there is a similar degree or certificate you may be able to continue in Pathways without losing much time.

  • Where are you located? You can direct message me if you like. Arizona State University is expanding its relationship with BYU-PW and I wonder if you could take ASU classes either online or on campus.
  • Are there any local community colleges that might accept some transferred classes?
  • If you can transfer classes, for example general education classes within BYU-PW, honestly I’d consider pick a somewhat related degree or certificate and run with it. Some degrees are flexible and you just have to get a degree in something vaguely related. For example jobs looking for a business degree would probably take business, finance, accounting, marketing, CIS, and economics. Nursing and web design and some others, not so much so that doesn’t always work. I’m not sure what you’re going into.
  • 1. The Pathways classes won’t transfer anyplace else. I can still apply for BYU-Idaho Online in the fall as a Pathways student if I complete the last trimester successfully and find a degree program that I can work with.

    2. I am located in the Lansing, MI area.

    3. Because I have an A.A. already, I am transferring into a 4 year program. I wanted an online degree program because I work full time and have family responsibilities.

    #328819
    Anonymous
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    Today I will work on following SD’s and CS’s advice and looking into what I want career-wise, and seeing what is available in terms of online degrees. I am planning to attend the Pathways class tonight.

    My husband and I talked about our options, and he understands about the choices we face.

    He gave me a blessing [story for a different thread].

    He also took an hour to do the dishes to make my night easier.

    PLUS SIDE:

  • I won’t need to abide by the TR standards for a church school endorsement. While I don’t consider myself a TBM fraud (mostly because I think/pray/and strive to act for my heart to be in the right place), it would be nice not to have to dodge those bullets.

  • MINUS SIDE:

  • Re-organizing steps in the process.

  • Financial impact.

  • #328820
    Anonymous
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    AmyJ wrote:


    I currently run the technical support help desk for a grants management software company. It is draining, but I have some flexibility when not taking calls, and the pay I feel is generous for what I actually do.

    The beautiful thing about IT, or any computer work, is that it is more about what you know and what you can do, more than any degree you could have. Most degrees have very little to do with the job you get. At best, I feel a BS/BA is just another hoop to jump through. If you want to go the Computer Science/Developer route, instead of spending another couple years in college, you can easily get a good career by taking a few cheap/free online courses and building up a solid portfolio. I highly recommend checking out Udemy. Also, there are plenty of bootcamps that have a job guarantee, and pack plenty of training while padding your portfolio in a 12-16 week period for relatively cheap. If you can find and manage an in-person bootcamp course (keep in mind, most require 70-80 hours a week), that’d be the way to go.

    There are also a number of online coding bootcamps, that also provide a more at-your-own-pace training and also come with a job guarantee. The two that come to mind are Viking Code School and Flatiron. Flatiron gives half-off scholarships to all women who apply, which as a man kind of erks me, but as a woman I’d recommend taking full advantage of. Both schools also have free prep courses (200-300 hours), so you can try things out and see if its a good fit.

    If you can get the right training and have a few good projects under your belt, the pay is phenomenal, you’ll always be in demand for work, and depending on who you work for, you get to work flex hours and often from home. In addition, you can take up freelance work for extra cash.

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