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  • #212422
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    I don’t drink alcohol but like Pres. McKay have no problem with eating it.

    I appreciate it may be a trigger to severe alcoholics though.

    http://www.ldsliving.com/POLL-To-Cook-with-Alcohol-or-Not/

    #333921
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    The link is not working. It appears that the page may not be available any longer.

    I understand that any alcohol content is burned off.

    I like some BBQ sauce that is made with Jack Daniel’s Whiskey and has 0% alcohol.

    #333922
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    Here’s the updated working link: http://www.ldsliving.com/POLL-To-Cook-with-Alcohol-or-Not/s/63553” class=”bbcode_url”>http://www.ldsliving.com/POLL-To-Cook-with-Alcohol-or-Not/s/63553.

    Here’s a link to research, from back in 1992, disproving the myth that most alcohol is removed in cooking: https://www.nal.usda.gov/sites/default/files/fnic_uploads/Alcohol-Retention.pdf” class=”bbcode_url”>https://www.nal.usda.gov/sites/default/files/fnic_uploads/Alcohol-Retention.pdf. While it does have a lower boiling point than water, it doesn’t entirely evaporate, just like any other cooking liquid. Between 4%-85% of it remains, depending on cooking method, cooking time, and ingredients.

    Still, I wouldn’t fret over it too much. I don’t think many have gotten buzzed from eating those sorts of foods. It’s a letter vs spirit of the law sort of thing. I love President McKay.

    #333923
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    Most of the alcohol is removed (if it is heated) but I have known some recovering alcoholics who avoid it in food as it can trigger a relapse. I don’t think anyone gets drunk off it, but the trigger is still there.

    In some dishes such as certain desserts, it might not be boiled off.

    #333924
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    We used to cook with alcohol sometimes, but haven’t for several years.

    I am happier with not doing so right now for these reasons:

    a) Tween daughter – I really don’t want to deal with the potential introduction to alcohol because she is bored and thinks it a good idea to raid the pantry. NOTE: She hasn’t raided the pantry in a while and probably would go for the bread (my daughter all the way) instead of weird bottles… but you never know…

    b) Alcoholism/Addictive Personality types in family history – both sides…. While we don’t plan on buying alcohol and drinking it, the fact that we don’t have any stocked makes the executive functioning requirements of going and getting some a helpful barrier for potential last-minute stupidity on our account.

    While I can assume that we would be responsible with consuming alcohol if we chose to do so and that 1 drink does not automatically lead to addiction, I feel that our personal risk is higher for that circumstance than average, so our risk avoidance should be adjusted accordingly. I am also aware that 0 drinks (and judicial use of cold medicines and the like) only lead to not being addicted to alcohol (so that a person is potentially addicted to something else) – I am OK with that.

    #333925
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    I cook with alcohol but did not in my TBM days. I will also order “beer battered fish” in a restaurant. I’m with DOM on this one and I don’t in any way think it’s a violation of the WoW. FWIW I do have a good recipe for Boeuf Bourguignon that I am now craving and will likely make this weekend, and I don’t turn down Aunt Debbie’s rum cake at family functions (the icing also contains rum and is not cooked).

    That said, I’m also hear what Amy is saying and likewise have a side of my family that seems like they might have a predisposition to addiction (since virtually all of them are addicts). That is the actual reason I live the WoW – I fear that predisposition may be genetic and I don’t want to risk it.

    #333926
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    I had a relative who died of alcohol related illness. She drank really heavily and I consider her a warning. I do not consider myself alcoholic, but drinking was an issue for me. On the other hand, alcohol in the food is not an issue for me.

    #333927
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    I’ve never worried about alcohol in my food. It’s definitely not going to get you drunk. I think all the fretting we do over minutae probably offsets any health benefits.

    #333928
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    I have no problem with it, regardless of how much gets burned out by the process.

    I wouldn’t soak my food in it without cooking the food well, but . . . 🙂 :D

    #333929
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    I don’t have a problem with it. I grew up around alcohol and yes there are concerns about addiction in my family, but fortunately I never liked the hard stuff. Beer on the other hand… I brew my own home brew and burn off (most of) the alcohol. I also don’t really have a problem with Non-alcoholic beers, even in my most TBM days I would occasionally have one.

    Still one of the best ways to cook brotwurst is in beer.

    Odd come to think of it, that even in my most black and white days, I don’t think it was ever an issue. Other than DW saying I should ‘avoid the appearance of evil’, which I understood her point, but did not agree with.

    #333930
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    Old Timer wrote:


    That verse about avoiding the appearance of evil is one of the most misapplied verses in our entire scriptural canon.

    I might write a post about it – since I’ve written about practically everything else. 😆

    Reminder – Curt, I am still waiting on this write up. Did I miss it somewhere?

    #333931
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    Roy wrote:


    Old Timer wrote:


    That verse about avoiding the appearance of evil is one of the most misapplied verses in our entire scriptural canon.

    I might write a post about it – since I’ve written about practically everything else. 😆

    Reminder – Curt, I am still waiting on this write up. Did I miss it somewhere?

    I’m not answering for Curt but I agree with the idea he put forth. This is one of those areas where translation plays a part in interpretation, as does a more “puritan” view of things. The scripture is 1 Thessalonians 5:22 (KJV)

    Quote:

    Abstain from all appearance of evil.

    Other translations of the same Greek phrase include:

    NIV:

    Quote:

    reject every kind of evil


    ESV & NRSV:

    Quote:

    Abstain from every form of evil


    CEV:

    Quote:

    don’t have anything to do with evil


    ASV:

    Quote:

    abstain from every form of evil

    Just to keep this short and because I don’t have a ton of time at the moment, I interpret the scripture to mean “stay away from all evil” (wherever it appears) as opposed to what seems to be a common church member interpretation of “don’t do anything that could appear to be evil.”

    #333932
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    Old Timer wrote:

    I wouldn’t soak my food in it without cooking the food well, but . . . 🙂 :D

    You wouldn’t believe some of the desserts I had as a child – not off my parents, but visiting some of their friends. Some of the alcohol content was surprisingly high and I used to feel affected by them when I was small! Trifle was one of the worst but I never see it now.

    #333933
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    DarkJedi wrote:


    Just to keep this short and because I don’t have a ton of time at the moment, I interpret the scripture to mean “stay away from all evil” (wherever it appears) as opposed to what seems to be a common church member interpretation of “don’t do anything that could appear to be evil.”

    Personally, I value the ideas behind scripture on their own merit, not on their purported authority. That being said, I think “avoiding even the appearance of evil” is a very good idea, and don’t consider it puritanical at all, even IF that wasn’t the original intent or meaning behind that particular scripture.

    #333934
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    I wrote a post linking something I wrote on my personal blog about the Thessalonians verse about the appearance of evil, since I have no time right now to write another detailed post. It explains why I have a huge problem with the traditional LDS interpretation.

    /end of this threadjack. back to the topic of the post :D

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