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    Anonymous
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    Does anybody know what happened to the church is true website ? , I know the author of the site does post on this board . It has been inactive for almost 3 months. I did enjoy the blog spot on there . Like the author I am post faith crisis and now an unorthodox mormon.

    #337895
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    Hi Rebel,

    No, I do not know. Churchistrue last posted here in January of 2018 and last signed in August of 2019. That might put his last sign in here at about the same time as going inactive on his blog.

    I do have some very general observations about being a public middle way Mormon that may or may not apply to Churchistrue (last I heard he was not public yet).

    1) It can be a thankless job. As much as an individual might be helping people to not leave the church, do not expect gratitude from many in the community and hierarchy. Many will view such non-traditional middle way work with skepticism and suspicion – making the individual feel less wanted and less at home in the church.

    2) Nothing changes. Whatever the individual may feel passionate about changing within the church almost never changes (or changes so slowly as to appear to never change). This can be incredibly frustrating for individuals that are motivated by a sense of advocacy.

    3) It is not uncommon for individuals to get burned out after a period of time. Eventually the LDS church tends to take up a smaller portion of the world for many of these individuals and they just move on to other things. The world does not stop spinning while we figure out our existential questions. Sometimes we just need to put those questions aside for a time and simply enjoy the journey of living.

    Again, I have no direct knowledge about Churchistrue specifically. I hope he is merely taking a well deserved sabbatical.

    #337896
    Anonymous
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    Yes, that’s right… They will get opposition not only from certain church members but opponents of the church.

    #337897
    Anonymous
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    Looks like churchistrue is back as of today

    #337898
    Anonymous
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    Hey guys, yes I took about three months off between blog posts recently. It wasn’t a planned sabbatical. During that time period, I was occasionally active posting on my facebook wall https://www.facebook.com/randall.bowen.315, on Reddit (Mormon forum usually), on Mormon Dialogue board, or in a few private fb groups. But combination of very busy work and some trips and maybe just a touch of burn out, slowed me down for a bit.

    I’m very motivated to make an impact in the faith crisis world, and I still have a lot to accomplish, but I’m not immune to the issues in the list that Roy posted. I do consider myself an activist, but my motivations are not primary out of activism. And I don’t stay solely due to desire to be an activist and change things. That’s a small part of why I stay. I stay because I genuinely love the church and the experience I and my family have in it.

    People have been telling me for a long time, I won’t last long term, or I’ll turn like John Dehlin or Bill Reel. My faith crisis was between 12 and 15 years ago. It’s been 12 years since my faith issues have been in a mostly steady state. I’ve been blogging actively for 4+ years now. I see myself most likely remaining active blogging and as an activist long term. There’s still a lot I want to accomplish. It’s possible burn out could set in and I could see myself backing away and handing the torch off to someone else. But I would never go anti.

    Thanks for thinking of me.

    #337899
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    Thank you for checking in, ChurchisTrue.

    I am glad to hear that you are doing well.

    churchistrue wrote:


    People have been telling me for a long time, I won’t last long term, or I’ll turn like John Dehlin or Bill Reel. My faith crisis was between 12 and 15 years ago. It’s been 12 years since my faith issues have been in a mostly steady state. I’ve been blogging actively for 4+ years now. I see myself most likely remaining active blogging and as an activist long term. There’s still a lot I want to accomplish. It’s possible burn out could set in and I could see myself backing away and handing the torch off to someone else. But I would never go anti.

    Yeah, sometimes life just goes a new direction and it is time to set down things from a different time and life phase. I could see myself re-evaluating when the kids are grown (not going anti but maybe pulling back to a less active state). I currently work hard to keep my church activity sustainable. I do not want to burn out and I do not want to resent my church experience. It has been 10 years since my faith crisis when my assumptive world collapsed. My participation here at StayLDS helps me to blow off some steam and release pressure now and again. It also helps me to keep things in perspective on my bad days and remember the good things the church does.

    #337900
    Anonymous
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    I see myself as well trying to help others in a FC . My problem is that noone is in a fc in my small branch . Im always here if anyone ever needs to talk !!

    #337901
    Anonymous
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    Wow I really enjoyed todays church is true blog !!! Those are my feelings in a nutshell !!! Congrats to the author who is on this site !!! I really enjoy his writings and they have helped me stay in the church !!!! To everyone please check it out I dont think you will be disappointed.

    #337902
    Anonymous
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    Link please.

    #337903
    Anonymous
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    http://www.churchistrue.com. go to blog section.

    #337904
    Anonymous
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    Thank you,

    I especially liked the following list in reference to how to stayLDS:

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    Ostler’s main thesis is that someone who has experienced deep faith crisis can stay in the church even without a traditional testimony if needs in three areas can be met:

    –trust: they need to be able to trust the Church and local leaders

    –belonging: they need to feel like they belong

    –meaning: they need to be able to find meaning in the Church even if that is a different meaning than they found prior to faith crisis

    Ostler discussed ways local church leaders and active members can help the doubter in these three areas. But if the doubter wants to stay, they also have a huge responsibility in each of these.

    Trust. The doubter can choose to view the church and leaders with an attitude of grace, patience, and generosity. The doubter can choose to see the best in people. To assume good intentions. To understand someone with a traditional testimony views things completely differently and so what might feel hurtful to them is done with love by the active member. The doubter can understand that change in an organization like the church can be very slow and not to expect too much too quickly.

    Belonging. The doubter can work in the belonging aspect as well. Believing LDS and local leaders can be more careful with lessons and comments that ostracize doubters. But doubters have a responsibility. They should realize that they are unorthodox and that they can pick and choose when to make comments that they know will be hard for others to receive. Like Abraham Lincoln, they can write the letter then throw it away without sending. Sometimes you need to be authentic and you just have to make that comment. But you can do it in a gentle way, and if your actions and comments at other times show that you’re loyal and want to be on the same team, that controversial comment will be received easier. The doubter can look for things in common rather than look for things not in common and try to focus on those things in common while seeking to feel like they belong.

    Meaning. The doubter can appreciate the lived experience and work to find meaning in ways they haven’t noticed before. Even an atheist can find significant meaning in being part of a worship and service community. The doubter can find meaning in the work of LDS theologians like Adam Miller and Terryl Givens that are helping to shift the LDS narrative into finding value in more pragmatic and intellectually viable teachings. The doubter can work to find meaning in symbols and metaphors and not get hung up on the implausibility of the literalness of certain scripture and church history events. And at the same time, understand that their more traditional co-religionists are still going to talk about these events as literal and only find them meaningful if they are perceived as literal.

    If the doubter wants to stay, and the church wants to keep the doubter, it can happen. Both sides have some work to do to create an environment where this can be done more smoothly.

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