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    I hope this isn’t off base. But, sometimes the church seems very odd to me. This is one example. Attached is a recent announcement regarding the WIFI network. https://www.ldsliving.com/Church-Announces-New-Network-Name-Password-for-Wifi-Access/s/92404

    What is the purpose of a password if you’re going to advertise it?

    The old password was used within the organization (ward & stake) but not widely publicly distributed as far as I know.

    If this is too petty or off base, please remove. It just seems odd to me in so many ways.

    #338786
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    I agree, it is odd. The old network/password (LDSAccess/Pioneer47) were standard church wide as this one is, and you could find that via Google or people would just tell you. I think the new Liahona/Alma3738 is weird, honestly, because there is so much they could have done – even just changing the network name to something like ChurchofJesusChrist because we don’t actually type that in on a phone we just pick it off the list. Whatever. I think the only advantage the new network has, from a church/organization point of view, is that you’ve consented to the user agreement each time. Where I work we all have to sign a paper with the user agreement (it’s for work use only, we won’t go to inappropriate sites, we won’t share private information about clients or employees, etc.) and if you do anything that violates that agreement that’s the first thing they pull out (“You agreed that….”). Consenting to an “online” user agreement each day is the next best thing.

    #338787
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    For me the strangest thing was one of the stated reasons for the change.

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    To align with direction regarding the correct use of the name of the Church, the wireless network is meetinghouses and other Church facilities will be changing from “LDSAccess” to “Liahona.”

    I don’t get:

    1) Why aligning the data access point name with the name of the church would even be necessary.

    2) How “Liahona” moves us any closer to aligning with the correct name of the church.

    3) Does someone really, and I mean really hate the term LDS?

    A simple, “Because it’s been a while and we wanted to change it.” is a perfectly valid reason to make the change. The stated reason is… insulting? Inane?

    #338788
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    I can see them changing the logon and password every few years as a formality, clears it the users that are in the area of a building and just leeching off of free internet.

    But yes the ‘ aligning with correct name’ made no sense whatsoever, unless they are trying to home the the internet is out current day liahona.

    #338789
    Anonymous
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    https://www.deseret.com/faith/2020/2/25/21151507/ensign-college-lds-business-college-mormon-church-byu-pathway-salt-lake-city” class=”bbcode_url”>https://www.deseret.com/faith/2020/2/25/21151507/ensign-college-lds-business-college-mormon-church-byu-pathway-salt-lake-city

    I think they should have named it Liahona College. :P

    (The article is about renaming LDS Business College Ensign College)

    ETA: I got it! I predict the next name change of something will be New Era followed by Friend. :P

    #338790
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    DarkJedi wrote:


    (The article is about renaming LDS Business College Ensign College)


    nibbler wrote:


    3) Does someone really, and I mean really hate the term LDS?


    Yes. Yes indeed. Someone does.

    #338791
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    Roy wrote:


    DarkJedi wrote:


    (The article is about renaming LDS Business College Ensign College)


    nibbler wrote:


    3) Does someone really, and I mean really hate the term LDS?


    Yes. Yes indeed. Someone does.

    I think I know who the someone is and his initials may be RMN.

    #338792
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    I personally do not hate the term (I don’t mind it, generally.), but I understand that LDS, like Mormon, makes it easy for other Christians to claim we aren’t Christian.

    The website stuff seems picky, but, overall, I have no negative feelings about focusing on the Jesus Christ in our church name.

    #338793
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    Old Timer wrote:


    I personally do not hate the term (I don’t mind it, generally.), but I understand that LDS, like Mormon, makes it easy for other Christians to claim we aren’t Christian.

    The website stuff seems picky, but, overall, I have no negative feelings about focusing on the Jesus Christ in our church name.

    I think you’re right, Old-Timer, and I don’t hate either of them either. It’s just odd to me that LDS is a no-no but Latter-day Saint is not necessarily.

    #338794
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    Will using the term LDS be like using D&C (rather than saying doctrine and covenants)? On my mission it was a no-no as it was too close to an abortion medical procedure.

    …Didn’t make sense to me then either.

    #338795
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    Old Timer wrote:


    I personally do not hate the term (I don’t mind it, generally.), but I understand that LDS, like Mormon, makes it easy for other Christians to claim we aren’t Christian.

    The website stuff seems picky, but, overall, I have no negative feelings about focusing on the Jesus Christ in our church name.

    I just wish the church focused on more Jesus when it wasn’t Christmas time. April is going to be about Joseph smith. Members seem more interested in what changes the prophet Nelson will make, instead of how to change ourselves to become more like Christ.

    It’s been really hard for me as an inactive to see why or what the church brings that’s unique to the table, especially with all of the culture that isn’t about Jesus.

    #338796
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    The messages that have been put out ahead of the anniversary celebration lead me to believe that the event is going to be about using the first vision as a teaching tool to invite people to communicate with Christ personally.

    It often feels like the church itself is the true object of worship. I’m not sure whether that could be classified as a good or bad thing. Maybe some people need to worship a church and hopefully the church will point them towards Christ in the process. Depending on how you read things, Christ didn’t appear to want attention either, he pointed people in the direction of god.

    I know that for me historic experiences often overshadow current experiences. In this context, leaders could have shifted the focus from, “Joseph Smith had the First Vision, proving that he’s a prophet, which proves the church is true.” to, “The First Vision teaches us that Christ knows us personally and will speak to us.” and it would be super hard to feel the spirit of the new message because the echoes of the old messages, both in lived experience and from surrounding culture, are still louder than the volume of the new message.

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