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    My wife told me there are 15 new hymns for the hymn book. I looked at them all, and most had words and music penned within the last 8 years or so. There was one African American Spiritual hymn, and a handful of songs with words and music dating back to the 1800’s.

    It’s good to see the church introducing new “stuff” as for me, the whole experience is a bit boring. Well, really boring.

    I still wish they would include some songs from Afterglow, Bryce Neubert, Michael McLean, and contemporary gospel artists — songs that are poppy but still capable of transmitting the spirit due to their ballad formats.

    https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/fifteen-new-hymns-available-to-use-in-church-and-at-home” class=”bbcode_url”>https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/fifteen-new-hymns-available-to-use-in-church-and-at-home

    In case anyone is listening:

    a) Bryce Neubert – An Open Cover (it’s a ballad about reading the scriptures)

    b) Afterglow — I know he’s there (a ballad encouraging belief in God).

    c) Michael McLean — Together Forever (a ballad about eternal marriage).

    All this makes me want to use my music skills to host an evening of LDS Music and travel the region with it…

    #345663
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    These are in addition to others added last year. I think this is the third (?) installment. An earlier one included the favorite “Come Thou Fount of Every Blessings.”

    I think of note in this one are a personal favorite of mine “Softly and Tenderly Jesus is Calling.” Also “This Little Light of Mine,” which seems to be a bit more “upbeat” than many of the others we’re used to. I’m sure some of our more stodgy organists will still be able to make it sound like more of a funeral dirge. ;)

    I have generally liked the additions. I could live without “Faith in Every Footstep” but only because it’s too pioneer/Utah centric for my liking. I don’t dislike it as much as some other very Utah/Mormon/pioneer centric songs. And I still hold out hope for one of my favorite non-church ones “Here I Am Lord.”

    I’m not sure how other wards or areas do this or if they do anything at all, but my ward now has little binders in the hymnbook slots where they’ve printed off the new hymns so they can easily be used in meetings. I like the idea, but I’m not sure it’s widespread.

    #345664
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    I understand that “Amazing Grace” has been added. I am hopeful that this reflects some softening in the ebb and flow of the grace vs. works battle.

    #345665
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    I like nearly all of the new hymns, partly because none of them so far sound like some of the old hymns.

    I love more than I expected to love.

    #345666
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    In church yesterday, we sang Amazing Grace. I felt that there was something different about it and set about to investigate.

    It turns out that the original hymn of Amazing Grace contains 7 verses. Most Christian churches sing verses 1,2,4, & 7.

    Our LDS version appears to be verses 1, 3, & 4.

    Conspicuously absent is verse # 2,

    Quote:

    ’Twas grace that taught my heart to fear,

    And grace my fears relieved;

    How precious did that grace appear

    The hour I first believed!

    #345667
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    Maybe the correlation department didn’t like that first line? “Twas grace that taught my heart to fear,”

    Maybe they didn’t like the idea of grace inspiring fear? It’s impossible to guess at the reasons.

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    That is my instinct.

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    I speculate that it was “how precious did that grace appear, the hour I first believed.” From what I read, it sounds like LDS treat grace and atonement like synonyms and I assume that some individuals would be bothered by the idea that someone can benefit from the atonement by just believing. There are steps to repentance after all. I think we LDS are similarly uncomfortable with the guy being crucified and Jesus says, “Today you will be with me in paradise.” We tend to identify with the brother of the prodigal son that was not thrilled when his brother returned from his riotous living and was welcomed with open arms.

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    Yeah, despite making some progress on the grace front of late, the majority of the leadership (hence the membership) isn’t there yet. Small steps. I think it’s hard for people to look at something differently when they have been taught the same thing for decades and/or their whole lives

    I’m really not sure if grace and works are another of those things that gets posed as either/or when it’s really and. The doctrine/teachings allude to the idea some (grace after works). I believe it’s very possible some of us will get way more grace for very little work (perhaps only believing). I believe and hope we each get the measure of what we need, not what we might deserve (or others think we might deserve).

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    DarkJedi wrote:


    Yeah, despite making some progress on the grace front of late, the majority of the leadership (hence the membership) isn’t there yet. Small steps. I think it’s hard for people to look at something differently when they have been taught the same thing for decades and/or their whole lives

    I’m really not sure if grace and works are another of those things that gets posed as “either/or” when it’s really “and”. The doctrine/teachings allude to the idea some (grace after works). I believe it’s very possible some of us will get way more grace for very little work (perhaps only believing). I believe and hope we each get the measure of what we need, not what we might deserve (or others think we might deserve).

    I am coming to the conclusion that “Grace” and “Works” actually function like “Oil” and “Water” – they don’t really mingle except with a lot of vigorous blending. To me, “Grace” is associated with “Accommodation”, “Mercy”, “Generosity”, and “Adaptation”. “Works” is associated with “Action”, and “Tasks”.

    #345672
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    That sounds like an important distinction Amy.

    Doctrinally we tend to pit works against grace and mercy but that’s just the cage that we ourselves have constructed around those concepts. We do that on a lot of subjects. Create a relationship where perhaps none really exist. They’re just two different things that coexist, not competing forces where the presence of one force crowds out the presence of the other.

    #345673
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    One of my favorites among the new hymns is “It Is Well with My Soul,” which also appears in many Protestant hymnals. The third verse “My sin–Oh, the bliss of this glorious thought–My sin, not in part but the whole, Is nailed to the cross, and I bear it no more …” also marks a shift that others here have mentioned in connection with “Amazing Grace.” I’m sure that church committees a generation ago would not have approved. I see this kind of musical ecumenism as a welcome change.

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