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My wife and I went to the temple yesterday with our daughter who will be leaving next month for her mission. It was a very good experience, even with a couple of questions she had that I expected, given her obvious feminist understanding. 
This post isn’t about that specifically. I will share an insight from the experience in a different post. Rather this is a very simple observation about cultural expectations vs. reality.
One of the men who was entering the temple as we were leaving was dressed in a nice suit . . .
and pale green shirt.Nobody said a word to him about it. It literally was no big deal whatsoever to anyone there.
:clap: :thumbup: That’s all.
Very good. I wonder how much has changed in the two years I’ve been out…”less active?”
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When will we see a green shirt on the stand at general conference? 🙂 Sent from my SCH-I500 using Tapatalk 2
I don’t know, but Pres. Uchtdorf certainly has diversified the tie color spectrum. A green shirt is not that big of a deal. Twenty some years ago I would go to the temple in my uniform and it wasn’t a big deal but some time in between it became a bigger deal. When I was young in the 1970s white shirts were not required to pass or bless the sacrament but it seems like the 1990s things changed and now in my ward the YM have to have white shirts and sleeves rolled down to bless and pass. I thinks the standards have changed because some where along the way some GA said something and it became the new standard. Did Chrit have a dress standard for his followers? My understanding is that any dress is allowed in the temple, including jeans and a tshirt, as long as you have a recommend. I don’t know hownlong that policy has been in place and to what extent it can be pushed. Ive seen people in other countries go into temples with jeans. green shirts mean more to some than others. Sent from my SCH-I500 using Tapatalk 2
A pale green shirt would match your skin cwald. …and congrats to your daughter Ray. Very cool.
Interesting point however, why are men encouraged to all look identical? Dark suit, white shirt, clean cut is the uniform of a faithful member. Any deviation is indicative of a lack of obedience. It reminds me of the star bellies from Dr Seuss. No individual worth based on merit, but conformity.
An example would be an elderly lady in our ward a few years back who went on a humanitarian mission to Bangladesh for another organization. When she came back and talked about it, all she got was knowing smiles and condescending nods, because after all, it wasn’t a real mission with a real purpose.
Apparently, Feeding and clothing starving children is much less meritorious than singing and dancing in Nauvoo or working at a church ranch, and certainly not what normal members do.
Reflexzero, I agree with your concern and that such a perspective is too common in the Church, but I have found throughout my life that most members aren’t like that. The loudest voices often get identified incorrectly as the voices of the majority, but that often isn’t the case. Piccolos can be heard over all the other instruments, even if there are only four of them and 52 other instruments. That’s important to remember.
Broad strokes to be sure. I happily wore a blue shirt to the temple two weeks ago. Combat trousers too, but they were dark enough I don’t think anyone noticed. Oh and a beard, and leather jacket. If I wore my Sunday clothes any longer than I already do, they would rot.
:clap: :clap: I have worn dress slacks and a polo shirt to the temple at least twice – when I was traveling, had extra time unexpectedly and was near a temple. Nobody said a word to me or questioned me in any way.
Why do we get so wound up about white shirts? The handbook states that white shirts and ties are not required to administer the sacrament. Are leaders still failing to read the handbook? When are we as members going to point things out to leaders that fail to follow the handbook? We all have access to CHI 2. It isn’t secret. As far as entering the Temple, the only I have ever heard is Sunday best or church dress. I don’t think I’ve ever heard that white shirts are required to enter the Temple but I would feel out of place if I didn’t wear a suit with white shirt and tie. It also saves bringing more extra clothing since I wear pants and shirt rather than a jump suit.
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Cwald, as a youth or recently? Pull out the handbook or have leadership show you. If you know the handbook better than your local leaders then you hold some high ground.
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