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Yeah things have really gone downhill since we abolished polygamy. 
I’m so glad to read that you are seeing a trained professional. Best of luck to you! Quote:If you masturbate and have what you consider a problem with porn to me it means your real problem is you do not have quality sex in your life.
That certainly is true in many cases, but it absolutely isn’t true in many others. I’ve known enough people in both situations to understand that it’s not as clear-cut as that statement asserts.
It also tends to blame the spouse for the issue with porn of the other spouse – and that is a pernicious, destructive thing.I am starting a different thread to discuss porn, in and of itself. Let’s keep this thread focused on addiction recovery.
Old-Timer wrote:Quote:If you masturbate and have what you consider a problem with porn to me it means your real problem is you do not have quality sex in your life.
That certainly is true in many cases, but it absolutely isn’t true in many others. I’ve known enough people in both situations to understand that it’s not as clear-cut as that statement asserts.
It also tends to blame the spouse for the issue with porn of the other spouse – and that is a pernicious, destructive thing.I am starting a different thread to discuss porn, in and of itself. Let’s keep this thread focused on addiction recovery.
+1 – sorry Cadence, but this wrong in some (many?) cases. Particularly when porn is an addiction.
Some people will look at porn before and after quality sex. An addiction to porn isn’t cured by sex.
It’s like saying people are addicted to alcohol because they’re not getting enough good quality water. Sounds pretty ridiculous?
For some people porn meets a need they are addicted to that sex doesn’t meet.
As to how to overcome a porn addiction. First, apply the principle of ‘true doctrine understood, changes attitude and behaviour.’ That’s only the first part. But first one needs to understand the damage of porn. The (emotional/physical) pain to the actors, the pain to ones spouse. The damage to your ability to empathise with others. The waste of time and talents. These issues are independent of any church doctrine and apply to all. Change only happens when the pain of the problem is greater than the pain of the solution.
Once the motivation to change is found, follow the 10 steps in ARP (or a non-LDS program), preferably with neutral support (not spouse/friend).
Addiction recovery is possible and liberating (whatever the addiction).
Thank you for all comments so far. From what I can gather when I’ve heard stories of people that are recovering or are recovered from any addiction is they all make mistakes and that nobody has all the answers, but they all have found peace in their lives, however that may be. After praying about this and getting inspiration about this, I have come to the conclusion that I am meant to just find moderation in this recovery, not completely give up porn and masturbation. I know people won’t agree with me, but that’s the best I can do right now.
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