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DevilsAdvocate wrote:
My point is that sometimes labels mean more to people than their basic textbook definition which is why I don’t really identify that much with agnostics even though I agree with their basic point that it’s alright to admit we don’t know what to think sometimes.
Whoever it was (Roy?) that said that we are subject to our weaknesses when describing our weaknesses had it right. My wife often points out that I am too literal in the way that I use language. It affects how I hear what people say and how I say things, in spite of how people might hear them. The word ‘agnostic’ appeals to me because of its inherent meaning (‘I don’t know”, more or less) and in spite of its cultural (and incorrect, IMO) connotations. It probably is, as you point out, a reaction to all the times I’ve heard people declare that they ‘know’ such and such, and in all honesty, it wouldn’t break my heart if some people took it as a poke in the eye.doug wrote:… and in all honesty, it wouldn’t break my heart if some people took it as a poke in the eye.
Yep.
😈 I just wanted to say that I really love the fair, articulate, and cogent postings on this thread. :thumbup: cwald wrote:Roy wrote:I would only add that while being self aware of uncertainty is generally a good thing, dogmatically insisting that because we don’t “know” then it is impossible to “know” is not.
Hmmm? – something to think about for sure.
And I have been thinking about it. I am probably guilty of being dogmatic about the impossibility of ‘knowing’. Unfortunately, that word has been so abused and misappropriated that it’s impossible to really say anything definitive about it in a group of more than one. For now, I am sticking to my position (for my consumption only) that knowledge of anything metaphysical is strictly not possible … a leap of faith is absolutely absolutely required. I suppose that as we get more used to our idea of God, and more comfortable with our own spiritual experiences, that our LOF becomes transparent to us, especially for some personality types.
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