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I had made it through SM focusing on the kids, GD was okay as I read kept distracted reading the Book of Abraham in search of its purpose. In HP we got through a primary level plan of salvation lesson and with literally no time on the clock, this old guy in a wheel chair says “I wonder where all the homosexuals will end up?! And laughs out loud. Then another brother who I generally respect pipes up “I think I know” and chuckles. Seriously?! Why so we have to be so self righteous? Why do we need someone to vilify and feel superior to? Why do we have to have an enemy?
That one comment killed the entire day for me.
Our HP Group is so dang homophobic for a bunch of old, white, MorCor farmers.
I am glad we didn’t end in the true order of prayer because I could not have participated.
It might have been a good opportunity to point out that we’re not the judges, God is. And we really don’t know how all that works. There’s also always the old “let he who is without sin” line. Glad you didn’t end up in the true order of prayer at church. Does that usually happen?
First off, I love the avatar and the location. :thumbup: Malcolm Villager wrote:Why do we need someone to vilify and feel superior to? Why do we have to have an enemy?
I think it’s an ingrained part of human nature. At times I’ve felt as though people that were making enemies out of homosexuals were the enemy. I was exhibiting the same behaviors but from the other side of the coin. It’s a tough thing to shed.
I remember one Sunday School class where the teacher talked about something that happened in a high school classroom. Somehow same sex marriage became the topic of conversation. The teacher put everyone that supported SSM on one side of the classroom and everyone against on the other side of the classroom. Classy. Anyway, there was only one person on the anti-SSM side of the classroom, a LDS student. The SS teacher praised the student for standing up for what they believed despite the peer pressure. I wonder what I would have done if the SS teacher divided us up, if it came down to it would I be brave enough to stand alone on the pro side of the overflow, would I receive the same praise for standing up for what I believed in despite the peer pressure? It didn’t come to that but it helped me think of what I’d do.
Luckily, I am in a ward where I don’t hear those types of comments. There are plenty of people who probably believe similarly, but I don’t hear those things said. On the other hand, I have heard quite a few compassionate comments over the years, and I have had personal discussions with various local leaders that surprised me, since those leaders seemed to be quite orthodox. The most recent one was with a local leader who said the Priesthood ban was wrong and got changed and he was sure the new policy regarding children of same-sex parents would change, as well. High-level local leader.
There are FAR more active members who feel that way than most people think. The problem is that the extremists almost always are the most vocal.
Malcolm Villager wrote:
That one comment killed the entire day for me.
Hi, Malcolm… Just wanted to say welcome. I can understand your frustration. I think a perk of participating here is that it kind of expands my Sabbath. I’ve concluded that my stake is an outlier, more authority and control-oriented than many. It’s helpful to come here and read the more encouraging happenings from elsewhere.Good luck and I hope we can help.
Welcome Malcolm. My mom’s family are orthodox Mormon dairy farmers. I love them. They are good and generous people at the core. I do get surprised at the type of sexist, zenophobic, and homophobic language that passes for acceptable around there.
I suppose that I am a product of my personal social circles and business environment where these types of comments are prohibited/curtailed by personnel policies.
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