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November 12, 2009 at 11:08 am #204533
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GuestDear All, I plan to send a thank you to the Salt Lake City Council and the public afairs branch of the church. A step in healing broken hearts occured last night.
The article along with the church’s official statement can be found at the following two links:
http://www.sltrib.com/ci_13758070?source=rss Have any of you heard about this and what are your thoughts? Bridget
November 12, 2009 at 1:47 pm #225058Anonymous
GuestThanks Bridget This is the first that I have heard of it and really appreciate your link, it is a good step and perhaps it might mean that the next time a California Prop 8 comes up they will be able to use the same approach and not oppose it, I would like to think and hope that.
November 12, 2009 at 3:44 pm #225059Anonymous
GuestYes, I was so happy to read about this approach. It seems much more consistent with Christlike behavior than what happened with props 8/102. November 12, 2009 at 3:49 pm #225060Anonymous
GuestYes, it is a good first step. As they say, line upon line…. But, I must say I was disappointed in the statement Michael Otterson made “The Church supports this ordinance because it is fair and reasonable and does not do violence to the institution of marriage.”
Violence? Letting two people who love each other get married is “violent?” I need a lesson in what violent means, but it seems to me it is not even in the same universe as love.
Then he says “I represent a church that believes in human dignity, in treating others with respect even when we disagree.” REALLY?! Since when? By supporting the efforts in California, and recently in Maine, to disallow gay marriage? This is treating others with respect, EVEN WHEN WE DISAGREE?! I guess I need to go back to school to learn definitions again.
But, trying to see the positive…and that I think this is primarily a PR move by the church, it is a good step. I just hope there will be many more, real soon!
November 12, 2009 at 4:25 pm #225061Anonymous
GuestQuote:Violence? Letting two people who love each other get married is “violent?” I need a lesson in what violent means, but it seems to me it is not even in the same universe as love.
Rix, I was so bothered by this too! Terrible choice in wording, especially in the climate of hatespeech in the corridor!
November 13, 2009 at 8:43 am #225062Anonymous
Guest“Violence,” It sort of confirms my belief the PR department of the church has been put out to pasture, or laid off. The story expanded today with Brother Holland suggesting the good actions of the Salt Lake Council could possible expand throughout the state of Utah. That news gives me a small glimmer of hope. Perhaps rumors are true, the sad exodus of members from the church & decline in tithing has reached the offices at 47 South Temple. Dialogue is now happening to bring some resolution, to allow LOVE to win the day. I pray it is so. November 13, 2009 at 12:45 pm #225063Anonymous
GuestI so agree with everyone’s thoughts on this. The violence wording really disturbed me too. Here is a small part the article which mentions brother Holland: LDS apostle: SLC gay-rights measures could work for stateBy Rosemary Winters And Peggy Fletcher Stack
The Salt Lake TribuneUpdated: 11/12/2009 09:42:27 AM MST The LDS Church’s unexpected endorsement of two Salt Lake City gay-rights measures has many observers wondering if another surprise could follow: a friendlier reception in the 2010 Legislature for such protections statewide.
Even an LDS apostle — continuing the string of stunners –thinks Salt Lake City’s ordinances could be a model.
“Anything good is shareable,” Elder Jeffrey R. Holland said in an interview Wednesday, referring to Salt Lake City’s new policy aimed at protecting gay and transgender residents from discrimination.
He praised the efforts of Mormon officials and gay-rights leaders who sat down to discuss the issue before the church’s endorsement.
“Everybody ought to have the freedom to frame the statutes the way they want,” he said. “But at least the process and the good will and working at it, certainly that could be modeled anywhere and even elements of the statute.”
Still, conservative stalwarts the Sutherland Institute have vowed to fight any statewide anti-discrimination measures.
What bothers me is that a group of lds members who formed this Sutherland Institute are fighting the church for supporting this ordiance. This is the second time they have gone against the church on this and do not want gays to have any rights.http://sutherlandinstitute.org/news/news_details.asp?c=2&id=631 I do think the church is being forced to change its attitudes on this. I have it on good authority that alot of things in regards to this issue are changing behind the scenes through new literature coming out and through lds social services and how they will be treating gays in the future.
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