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The following is a link to the Church’s announcement of the restructuring of mission leadership organization. New sister training leaders will reports directly to the Mission President and his wife, Mission Leadership Councils are being established that include sister missionaries and replace the former leadership model, and the Mission President’s wife will assume more extensive duties – particularly oversight of sister missionaries. I thought all of you would like to know ASAP.
I told you so.
Some will see it as a major leap forward for women in the church, others will see it as another means of the church acting like they treat women equally when they do not. Why not just make them district and zone leaders for heavens sake. It sounds like being relief society president. You do all the work but have to defer on any real decision making to a man. Frankly, I prefer to celebrate progress ( and this is serious, consequential progress) even when I’d like to see more progress. Things don’t have to be one extreme or the other, and I don’t mind at all being happy about real movement in the middle. I want to balance idealism and pragmatism, but I would prefer to be able to find joy in good things and not be trapped always in cynicism to such an extent that I can’t find joy in good things.
Baby steps. Baby steps in the right direction, but it is still frustrating. Let’s make sure that women only ever lead or train other women because clearly men have nothing to learn from them. I do feel pretty strongly that councils are the right way to go (vs hierarchical, titled, competitive leadership), and interestingly, they are consistent with early Hebrew pantheistic worship: a council of gods, both male and female. However, council leadership is partly at odds with the hierarchical structures that exist in today’s all male priesthood (in which a higher title often results in deferring rather than open debate and discussion of a diversity of viewpoints).
+1 Candence and Hawkgirl. Glad for the baby steps, kind of feel its simply a shell game. Yea women have power…oh wait it’s only with other women and has to go through a man. Still it is better to at least have women on the council then not so I am happy for that part of the game. Also I’m glad the mission presidents wife as a more prominent roll. Frankly, my favorite aspect is that the sister training leaders don’t report to other missionaries but instead go straight to the Mission President and his wife. In that sense, organizationally, they are more like APs than Zone Leaders – and that is a major change. It’ll be interesting to see how this is implemented and how it works in practice. No doubt there will be big variations by mission. Good idea though. Sent from my Windows Phone 8X by HTC using Board Express
Old-Timer wrote:Frankly, I prefer to celebrate progress (
and this is serious, consequential progress) even when I’d like to see more progress. Things don’t have to be one extreme or the other, and I don’t mind at all being happy about real movement in the middle. I want to balance idealism and pragmatism, but I would prefer to be able to find joy in good things and not be trapped always in cynicism to such an extent that I can’t find joy in good things.
Thanks Ray. I appreciate your ability to so often see the positive side of things. Glad your here to help keep us in check.:thumbup: I really wish we could call ‘the mission presidents wife’ something else. I really like the change because I have always been attracted to strong women. sitting in general priesthood, i fantasize that Pres monson migtt announce universal access to the priesthood… i think this mission council is a very goid step…
Thanks Ray. I’m glad for the tone that you and others set for this forum. There are a couple of others I spend time in, but they are in no way ‘middle way’ they are always leaning too far to one or the other. And yes, I’m glad for baby steps. Some of you may recall my conversation about mission age with my nearly 10yo daughter. If they keep making baby steps then I look forward to what the church might be like in 10 years.
We can’t seek change but then complain when the changes are small.
A bishop ones told me, when is proposed some radical changes as WML, ‘the church is a huge freight ship or ocean liner. Not a speed boat. We change the church by small degrees, not quick u-turns that would causw upturns.’
wayfarer wrote:sitting in general priesthood, i fantasize that Pres monson migtt announce universal access to the priesthood…
i think this mission council is a very goid step…
Yep.
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