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Apparently we have to especially look out for the likes of Pres. Uchtdorf. Worse than just going to Europe, he’s actually European! 
This article was a train wreck, but for me the worst part was that she proudly proclaims she is a RS president. What kind of RS president is she?? New Relief Society motto: “Charity utterly faileth.” Quote:she proudly proclaims she is a RS president
Therein might lie part of the problem, and I mean that completely.
Paul, Peter and Andrew etc all visited Europe too. Paul even wrote letters to them. Based on the article, Joni is almost surely one who interprets Elder Uchtdorf’s statement the way that I feared many would. When he said “Doubt your doubts before you doubt your faith,” she seemingly heard “Doubt is bad! If there’s anything in the church you don’t go along with, repent!” I think some people just need someone to tell them exactly what to do so they can pat themselves on the back when they display perfect obedience. I, for one, feel MORE lost when I apply blind obedience. Obviously there are many principles in the church that I have lived, and they have taken hold in my life, but there are many that I’ve lived that I feel completely indifferent about, and some I have grown to disagree with and/or fail to see as necessary.
Life_Journey_of_Matt wrote:Based on the article, Joni is almost surely one who interprets Elder Uchtdorf’s statement the way that I feared many would. When he said “Doubt your doubts before you doubt your faith,” she seemingly heard “Doubt is bad! If there’s anything in the church you don’t go along with, repent!”
I think some people just need someone to tell them exactly what to do so they can pat themselves on the back when they display perfect obedience. I, for one, feel MORE lost when I apply blind obedience. Obviously there are many principles in the church that I have lived, and they have taken hold in my life, but there are many that I’ve lived that I feel completely indifferent about, and some I have grown to disagree with and/or fail to see as necessary.
I understand where you’re coming from. The only way I can work with people who have these attitudes is to take this approach (which I posted on FB to the initial shared link, Shared ‘in anger’ by a friend):
Quote:I have to remind myself that if I’m going to embrace the benefits of the big tent of Mormonism that Dieter F Uchtdorf spoke about earlier this month then I have to also accept that there will be people way over the other side of the tent who I fiercely disagree with. I can’t only expect people to be huddled over on my side of the tent… otherwise it would be a small tent. I embrace the diversity of thought within the church, even though I don’t understand how someone reaches that perspective. I think she’s wrong and I’m sad she’s given a platform to preach this narrow-minded bile, but I also want her to have a place in the tent too. Perhaps one day she’ll make friends with a “liberal mormon” and realise she’s drawn the wrong conclusion.
Haven wrote:everyone has a different perspective, and some perspectives are just goofy and I don’t need to believe the goofy ones.
Yes, that is not rationalization for the lazy, that is just some good smarts to view it that way. Thanks Haven.
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