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Yes I have my own post. My fuse is so short lately. It’s coming out on thread after thread. If you catch one that is over the top grab it. Or PM me and give me a heads up to alter it.
Thanks.
Carrie
Thanks for your reply to Reuben. I was surprised by his reaction. I think it stemmed from an interpretation of: Quote:The religion isn’t really the cause…it may be the topic or issue that reveals the nature of the individuals, with our without religion these would get revealed in life.
I think Heber13’s comment was aimed more at the global level, life reveals human frailties. Maybe Reuben took the comment at a more personal level, certain individuals are faulty. Just a guess.
It’s OK to feel the power of the dark side every once in awhile. Reuben’s struck a chord with me as well. He knows none of us here are living in perfect paradisaical worlds. We all need a little scolding from time to time. FWIW, I also know a shunned JW. He’s a friend of my son and his family lives nearby. He does things that would also get him shunned in the Mormon way, which is less formal and severe than the JW way. But I see what has happened in this family – and how they don’t have any contact with him even though he lives close and even though his father is not a JW. They once left a restaurant in the middle of their dinner because he happened to come in. I feel bad for the kid. Mormons generally have it pretty good in that respect.
Thank you – for responding and responding. I will let myself take a lower key weekend. It will be good for everyone.
I stepped in with a long, direct admin note. Frankly, Carrie, what you said needed to be said. I hope he understands my comment.
Thank you, too Ray. I am always surprised how protective I am of this site. It’s like family to me. I have no issue with Reuben, we barely know him, but he and I didn’t connect well yesterday. I really appreciate all of you.
Continue to have good weekends,
Carrie
Here’s the portion that concerns me the most: Quote:When two discussion participants in a position of power say the same apparently absurd thing, it makes me extremely uncomfortable.
Heber13, mom3, and I were making similar points but the only
adminnote was a call out for sarcastically calling people zen masters and getting a little heated with what I felt was misrepresenting someone else’s position. And I concede that I’m probably wrong with my interpretations of Reuben’s reaction. I’m concerned with the “position of power” thing. I hope Reuben doesn’t take one perspective as the only perspective that will be tolerated here simply because it’s the perspective of an admin or mod. To be honest we did kind of gang up on him in taking a similar “opposing” view, so I can see where Reuben might have gotten that impression. I just hope we didn’t scare him away.
But my belabored point is this, the admins and mods are just regular schlubs with their own opinions. The only time they wield any power is when there’s a specific [admin note] call-out, everything else is pure opinion, not policy. In this case the admin note wasn’t for holding a different opinion it was for the anger (would I go that far in labeling it anger?) towards the opinion.
That incident and the other thread where the link was edited out (which was a pretty tame admin function) make me concerned that the impression of lurkers or would be posters is that StayLDS has a heavy hand. I don’t know.
Maybe a
Moderation and MeSwitching gears.
At one time did we talk about having a generic admin account that could be used for admin notes in threads, that way it isn’t coming from any one person. Coupled with that… having the mods have “regular” colored names in the forums so people don’t see nibbler the mod, mom3 the mod, DarkJedi the mod, etc. they see nibbler, mom3, DarkJedi.
As you can tell, I’m a weenie.
I support both measures. I can’t create the Admin user right now, so if someone else can go for it. Use a password like StayLDSAdmin. Write a justification text using your username and saying it is a generic admin account. Let us know when it is set up.
I don’t know if it is possible to change the coloring, since that might trigger access rights in the system.
Also, I sent Reuben a PM explaining why I wrote the admin note and telling him we value and appreciate his participation. I need to catch up on reading but I don’t think you need to be babysat, mom3, you’re fine. I also think less moderation is better than too much.
But that link on the temple or other things that go to sites or resources should be screened.
People’s opinions should be allowed.
I think there is a group that has been here a long time that instead how we like to talk about things, but that doesn’t need to become the only option for people.
The rules of etiquette should be upheld. But it’s ok to be negative towards me or the church if working through thibgs
Just my initial thoughts…I need to read up to get more context, I have been offline this weekend, river rafting Montana rivers
I just bumped up the moderation thread nibbler mentioned, with a short, additional note. Going along with some of nibbler’s thoughts, I have no string feelings one way or another on those ideas. Whatever you all think. I have been wondering lately if we should try to thread or forum section of “venting open mic” – let people say what they want and keep it to that section so others don’t go there if they don’t want that negativity.
Do you all think anything like that could work on our site?
It could still be moderated just a space for people to vent and not have me swoop 8n with some zen-master thing that deflates their moment.
Thoughts??
If we trialed it for a bit, we could see if it works and if there is demand for it, and if I can practice how to hold conversations with someone very negative without just shutting them up…but either stay out of it or talk with them even if they are angry.
Just an idea. It may be a futile thought.
I personally would have to think about that for a bit. I can see pros and cons immediately, but the unintended / unconsidered consequences scare me a bit. Old Timer wrote:
I can’t create the Admin user right now, so if someone else can go for it. Use a password like StayLDSAdmin. Write a justification text using your username and saying it is a generic admin account. Let us know when it is set up.
I’ll look into creating one (the name ‘Admin’ might be reserved) but we’d have to provide an e-mail address for the new account.
Some time ago Brian offered to create e-mail accounts for people
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1263viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1263” class=”bbcode_url”> 1) I want one.
2) We could use an email in the staylds domain to create that admin account.
If we go ahead with the creation of that account we can post the credentials as a sticky at the top of this forum.
I’m not opposed to an “anonymous” admin account. They do that over at Mormon Dialogue because supposedly we don’t know who the admins are that way. If you hang around there enough you can figure it, though. But part of their problem is uneven and almost random moderation and a lot depends on who says what – clearly some get away with much more than others – and that’s not a problem here. So I think keeping the current system of knowing who the moderators are but posting “moderator notes” under a blanket name might actually work for us. I also think a reminder that we’re only moderators when we are speaking as moderators is good. Bumping Ray’s old thread is good, and maybe even starting a new one is good. Perhaps making it a sticky would help. I do honestly forget most of the time that I’m mostly just a member of the forum offering my own opinions while those reading might see it much differently. I wonder if at least some GAs see themselves that way?
I suppose there is also the possibility of adding a disclaimer to my signature line.
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