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You’re only allowed a beard in Relief Society!!!! Not just the church though – who was the last bearded American president? Has there been one since Lincoln?
Even in Russia and the former Soviet Union, where beards are more common, the last premier to have a beard was Lenin and the last with a moustache was Stalin.
I don’t think ANY of the leaders of Canada, Australia, NZ, the UK, Ireland, France, Germany, Italy, Japan or Argentina have had beards or even sported moustaches since WWII.
ps The only notable bearded leaderS of modern times I can think of are Fidel Castro…and Ayatollah Khomeini. Advantages of beards –
* Cut heating bills.
* Good for missionaries in cold climates.
* Ready snacks can be found in them when hungry.
* Birds can nest in them.
* When you become older you can be mistaken for Santa, Ernest Hemingway or Lorenzo Snow.
* You can blend into tableaux at a museum.
* You get called a Muslim.
I think the churches take on it is it is the attempt to separate spiritual man from natural man. It has to be. I can understand doctors, food industry, etc. Personally, I think it is religion and other organizations, including gov’ts continual move towards a fascist, cookie cotter society….but that is just the liberal anarchist side of me talking. Remember the song from RUSH – Subdivisions? “Conform or be cast out”. The church behaves this way almost to a tee. If there’s one thing that used to get my goat(ee) quicker than anything else in my TBM days, it was the church stance on beards. These days I think, “gosh, if only that were the worst of it.”
mackay11 wrote:If there’s one thing that used to get my goat(ee) quicker than anything else in my TBM days, it was the church stance on beards.
These days I think, “gosh, if only that were the worst of it.”
My wife keeps telling me, perhaps one day, when (if) Jesus returns, these things (most of how we worship today) will be done away with, like when he did away with the law of Moses. I can imagine if I was alive back then, I would have definitely been one of the the rebellious ones that refused to kill any more sheep and burn them up on an alter.
We had a 5th Sunday lesson about 2 years ago from a member of the SP. It was all on personal grooming and he said that all the men should be clean shaven on a Sunday and used BYU fireside quotes to substantiate it. It was grim. If i thought then as i do now I’d have piped up. Sent from my Windows Phone 8X by HTC using Board Express
I only shave because my wife won’t kiss me if I don’t – and I’d rather kiss my wife than have a beard. Different motivations for different people.
I grow a beard at least once a year because my kids are always asking me to. I keep it for a month or two at a time. It ages me by about 10 years so I don’t like to wear it too often. No one has ever really gotten after me, other than my MIL. But then again if the did I’d probably say something to put them in there place. But then again I never wear a white shirt and tie so perhaps everyone already sees me as a heretic 👿 .Old-Timer wrote:I only shave because my wife won’t kiss me if I don’t – and I’d rather kiss my wife than have a beard.
Different motivations for different people.
As a wise woman once told me “choose the battles you lose.”
(Isn’t it funny that choose and lose rhyme but if they were spelled ‘choose’ and ‘loose’ or ‘chose’ and ‘lose’ they wouldn’t)
mackay11 wrote:If there’s one thing that used to get my goat(ee) quicker than anything else in my TBM days, it was the church stance on beards.
These days I think, “gosh, if only that were the worst of it.”
Yep.
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I have had a beard for two years now, wife loves it, kids like it, mother-in-law hates it, and several ward members have voiced disapproval. I’ve got thick skin, and usually stand near a picture of Jesus while waiting in the hallway, but I think most are oblivious to his man-beard.
My husband of nearly 42 years has had a full beard for all but about 4 of those years. I love it. He looks better with it than without it. (It more or less looks like Heber J. Grant’s.) If there is any subject that is going to get me riled, it’s this one. He is a high priest and has a current temple recommend but apparently isn’t “worthy” to serve in certain positions because of his “rebellious nature” and “poor grooming.” I better shut up now, before I totally lose it. Katzpur wrote:My husband of nearly 42 years has had a full beard for all but about 4 of those years. I love it. He looks better with it than without it. (It more or less looks like Heber J. Grant’s.) If there is any subject that is going to get me riled, it’s this one. He is a high priest and has a current temple recommend but apparently isn’t “worthy” to serve in certain positions because of his “rebellious nature” and “poor grooming.” I better shut up now, before I totally lose it.
Well groomed does not mean beardless. A man with a beard can be well groomed. Our living prophet quoted a story describing George Albert Smith’s beard as “well groomed”:
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President Thomas S. Monson, a counselor in the First Presidency, shared the following story about President George Albert Smith: “Junius Burt of Salt Lake City, a longtime worker in the Streets Department, related a touching and inspirational experience. He declared that on a cold winter morning, the street cleaning crew of which he was a member was removing large chunks of ice from the street gutters. The regular crew was assisted by temporary laborers who desperately needed the work. One such wore only a lightweight sweater and was suffering from the cold. A slender man with a well-groomed beard stopped by the crew and asked the worker, ‘You need more than that sweater on a morning like this. Where is your coat?’ The man replied that he had no coat to wear. The visitor then removed his own overcoat, handed it to the man and said, ‘This coat is yours. It is heavy wool and will keep you warm. I just work across the street.’ The street was South Temple. The good Samaritan who walked into the Church Administration Building to his daily work and without his coat was President George Albert Smith of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. His selfless act of generosity revealed his tender heart. Surely he was his brother’s keeper”
Ironically, to be well groomed you actually need some hair to groom. Facial or otherwise. The verb ‘to groom’ comes from the noun groom (the guy who looked after the horses coat). Not much shaving going on there.
The real problem with this, IMO, is that we create a hierarchical dresscode that is arbitrary, but it’s a class system. Conformity is the only path to leadership. What kind of culture is that? Not a spiritual one.
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