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I just wanted to share an observation I’ve made over the years — the relationship between Hokus and Local Doctrine. I have observed that at certain times in my decades in the church, certain individuals gain influence within a stake. Often its a respected church leader, but at other times, it’s someone who is a good teacher, or whom people respect. They come out with statements which become “local doctrine”. Everyone believes it, and it gets passed on from person to person, and sometimes to future generations.
Here are examples of local doctrine I have experienced.
1. If you forsake the Gospel, you will lose your job.
2. It’s easier to receive revelation about how to serve other people, than it is to receive revelation for your own life.
Have you experienced local doctrine? What is the nature of it?
I hear you. There was this really charismatic guy that had a lot of ideas and now there are millions of people that believe in some local upstate NY doctrines. :angel: I guess local doctrines can grow into global doctrines if the doctrine becomes respected independent of the person.Caffeinated beverages like soda (pop, coke, or soft drink for the uninitiated
I remember a write-up about how, in the eternities, when people heard we lived in the time of Gordon B. Hinckley everyone would almost worship us — that one spread like wildfire! I think the one I never understood is the “you have been saved for the last days” speech I always got as a youth. Along with that the idea that the early saints would be in awe because we lived in such wicked times. The youth now get that one as well. What happened? I thought it was my generation that was being saved for the last days?
🙂 I’m glad I was saved and didn’t have to go through what my ancestors experienced. :thumbup: Yeah, I have heard doozies in my life.
The republican party is the only true party. You can’t be a good Mormon and vote Democrate. (Sorry, don’t want to offend anyone, but up through the 50’s Utah consistently voted for the party winning the White House since statehood.) dash1730 wrote:The republican party is the only true party. You can’t be a good Mormon and vote Democrate. (Sorry, don’t want to offend anyone, but up through the 50’s Utah consistently voted for the party winning the White House since statehood.)
I’m not from the USA myself, but there are certainly unstated political assumptions here too. I get really annoyed because I try and leave my politics at the chapel door. I’ve had to call out people recently for promoting politics antithetical to the gospel.
For example the FHC director and her husband tried to make out that there weren’t really any poor people here. While we don’t have African style poverty, I have seen genuine poverty first hand including homelessness. Further she tried to tell me that the poor shouldn’t be helped for their own good. At this point, I practically threw the Good Book at her – the NT and BoM say the opposite, a dozen times over.
The other thing that bugs me is some members of the ward veer towards militarism.
Quote:I remember a write-up about how, in the eternities, when people heard we lived in the time of Gordon B. Hinckley everyone would almost worship us — that one spread like wildfire!
Yeah, how did THAT get started? It’s hero worship pure and simple (and just to be clear, I was always a Pres Hinckley fan)
Quote:I think the one I never understood is the “you have been saved for the last days” speech I always got as a youth. Along with that the idea that the early saints would be in awe because we lived in such wicked times.
I heard this as a youth and I hear it now as an adult ALL.THE.TIME. It sure may me feel good as a teenager but gave me a pause as a middle-aged adult.
http://www.holyfetch.com/Mormon_theories/youths.htmlhttp://www.holyfetch.com/Mormon_theories/youths.html” class=”bbcode_url”> Explained.
SilentDawning wrote:I remember a write-up about how, in the eternities, when people heard we lived in the time of Gordon B. Hinckley everyone would almost worship us — that one spread like wildfire!
I thought it was Spencer W. Kimball.
It was both – and probably every other President. 🙄 It is the same nonsense as the idea that the current generation (whenever it is) is comprised of the generals in the War in Heaven.That last idea was addressed and discredited by an official statement or something from an apostle, but I can’t remember the exact source and am too lazy to look it up.
Ray’s right — they did make some official statement like that not too long ago. The concept appears in many Patriarchal blessings. Thoreau wrote:SilentDawning wrote:I remember a write-up about how, in the eternities, when people heard we lived in the time of Gordon B. Hinckley everyone would almost worship us — that one spread like wildfire!
I thought it was Spencer W. Kimball.
Well GBH was responsible for dozens of temples… so if they do what they say.
I got a good laugh in HPG a while back by saying “How many chosen generations can there be?” The group (for the most part) found it hilarious because we’re all old enough to have heard at least three or four. Needless to say, we as a group poo-pooed the idea that the second coming would likely occur in our lifetimes. (I’m one of the younger in there at 54, although I’ve been an HP for over 20 years.)
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