BYU Honor Code Amnesty: Policy Changes re: Sexual Assault

[Anonymous]

I am fully in support of these changes.

As far as BYU being better or worse than other schools. This broader discussion has helped me learn about rape culture as any element that minimizes sexual assault or frustrates the effort to address the issue. Many secular colleges have huge issues with this. BYU had perhaps the opposite side of the coin on with rape culture. Sex outside of marriage is seen as so taboo that women who are the victim of sexual assault are viewed with suspicion – as though they should have done more to “stand in holy places” and so forth.

Many, many individuals have great experiences at BYU. What we need to work on is how to deal with things positively when the experience is shattered. I believe these new policy changes are certainly a step in the right direction.

[Anonymous]

And after the changes made more rape reports coming in – which is actually a good thing.

http://fox13now.com/2017/04/07/reports-of-sexual-assault-increase-at-byu-in-wake-of-changes-at-title-ix-office/” class=”bbcode_url”>http://fox13now.com/2017/04/07/reports-of-sexual-assault-increase-at-byu-in-wake-of-changes-at-title-ix-office/

[Anonymous]

Wonderful changes! I wish they had been included from the very beginning.

I still think it overlooks the heart of the problem, with BYU’s honor code. From my college years at BYU, it was very apparent how much the code did not lead to “virtue”, but rather gross inauthenticity. There are many students who don’t drink because of the Word of Wisdom. But no student refuses the booze because of the “code”. They just hide it better.

I wish BYU would take the same approach as the Swiss did on the “War on Drugs”. Create an environment where people feel comfortable coming together and openingly discussing their struggles with porn, alcohol, drugs, sex, etc. Focus on minimizing the dangers, providing escape and rehabilitation, rather than punishing the behavior.

And what’s with the “If YOU don’t report the violation, then YOU are violator” policy? Someone should change that.

And the whole “All students are required to live in BYU-approved housing”? There was SO MUCH price-jacking for cruddy, decroding apartments. I was always envious of the nice places the UVU students got to stay at.

[Anonymous]

The Salt Lake Tribune just won the Pulitzer Prize for its reporting on this issue.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/5161643-155/salt-lake-tribune-wins-pulitzer-for

[Anonymous]

And then today, the Des News sulkily posted this steaming pile: http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865677637/How-BYU7s-Honor-Code-may-help-prevent-sexual-assaults.html

Some people simply don’t get it.

[Anonymous]

hawkgrrrl wrote:

And then today, the Des News sulkily posted this steaming pile: http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865677637/How-BYU7s-Honor-Code-may-help-prevent-sexual-assaults.html

Some people simply don’t get it.

Agreed – they don’t get it. They do have one valid point in that at BYU each weekend isn’t full of beer bashes and binge drinking – which can be a risk factor in assaults. I would assume having a beer or two greatly increases sexual assault, certainly not as much getting smashed.

And I really wish the honor code was moved back to being a student-led initiative where it started instead of McCarthy style policy it has turned into once Ernie Wilkinson weaponized it.

[Anonymous]

LookingHard wrote:

I would assume having a beer or two greatly increases sexual assault, certainly not as much getting smashed.

Not really; I used to drink a lot, and never got sexually assaulted.

Unless you count doing it to myself by picking up some women that were really scary once the Guinness wore off.

[Anonymous]

LookingHard wrote:

hawkgrrrl wrote:

And then today, the Des News sulkily posted this steaming pile: http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865677637/How-BYU7s-Honor-Code-may-help-prevent-sexual-assaults.html

Some people simply don’t get it.

Agreed – they don’t get it. They do have one valid point in that at BYU each weekend isn’t full of beer bashes and binge drinking – which can be a risk factor in assaults. I would assume having a beer or two greatly increases sexual assault, certainly not as much getting smashed.

And I really wish the honor code was moved back to being a student-led initiative where it started instead of McCarthy style policy it has turned into once Ernie Wilkinson weaponized it.

Weird article.

This is now about how BYU should be adivising other schools on their policies?

Or it’s news that alcohol contributes to sexual assault?

[Anonymous]

Ann wrote:

LookingHard wrote:

hawkgrrrl wrote:

And then today, the Des News sulkily posted this steaming pile: http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865677637/How-BYU7s-Honor-Code-may-help-prevent-sexual-assaults.html

Some people simply don’t get it.

Agreed – they don’t get it. They do have one valid point in that at BYU each weekend isn’t full of beer bashes and binge drinking – which can be a risk factor in assaults. I would assume having a beer or two greatly increases sexual assault, certainly not as much getting smashed.

And I really wish the honor code was moved back to being a student-led initiative where it started instead of McCarthy style policy it has turned into once Ernie Wilkinson weaponized it.

Weird article.

This is now about how BYU should be adivising other schools on their policies?

Or it’s news that alcohol contributes to sexual assault?

It’s about the author, who represents an awful lot of BYU alumni and other members of the Church, trying to feel good about BYU after finally being convinced that its policies and procedures were hurting people. They need to justify having defended them or having opposed changes to them.

Another possibility is that the author feels that the honor code is under attack. After all, not applying it in certain circumstances is the right thing to do. Maybe he wants to help ensure those circumstances aren’t broadened.

[Anonymous]

Reuben wrote:

Another possibility is that the author feels that the honor code is under attack. After all, not applying it in certain circumstances is the right thing to do. Maybe he wants to help ensure those circumstances aren’t broadened.

They should very well be broadened. There are serious problems with the honor code beyond the way it was handled in sexual assault cases.

[Anonymous]

Well at least Desert news was willing to print a bit of the other side. A bit on the short side, but glad someone is saying something in the same paper.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865678167/Letter-Safety-must-come-first.html” class=”bbcode_url”>http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865678167/Letter-Safety-must-come-first.html

[Anonymous]

LookingHard wrote:

Well at least Desert news was willing to print a bit of the other side. A bit on the short side, but glad someone is saying something in the same paper.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865678167/Letter-Safety-must-come-first.html” class=”bbcode_url”>http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865678167/Letter-Safety-must-come-first.html

I actually think “Utah’s newspaper” is more than a little embarrassed that the Trib won a Pulitzer Prize for its reporting on the subject.

[Anonymous]

I am very glad BYU has taken some positive steps, but I would have to assume the fallout will continue for quite a while

http://www.sltrib.com/news/5239811-155/she-reported-a-sex-assault-to” class=”bbcode_url”>http://www.sltrib.com/news/5239811-155/she-reported-a-sex-assault-to

I have heard in my state all universities have to give training on what consent is and I have heard from some kids it is eye opening for them and they are glad it is being discussed.

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