I reject a god that uses torture to get what he wants.
Me too. God clearly allows such things but I don’t believe God instigates or perpetrates them.
My apologies. This is what I meant to say. Sorry.
No offense taken at all. Lots of (most?) members and other Christians believe exactly what you said. I don’t happen to. No biggie, it’s OK to respectfully disagree here, and it’s even more OK to believe differently than others here. I believe your statement speaks for the majority more than mine.