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    Church leaders have said similar things:

    J. Reuben Clark wrote:

    If we have the truth, it cannot be harmed by investigation. If we have not the truth, it ought to be harmed.

    Joseph Smith Jr wrote:

    One of the grand fundamental principles of Mormonism is to receive truth, let it come from whence it may.

    There is similar language in the temple, we even have an article of faith that borders on this concept. It’s like with most things, it falls in and out of our consciousness depending on what is currently in front of us and as needed to support a point we are trying to make.

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    nibbler wrote:

    Church leaders have said similar things:

    J. Reuben Clark wrote:

    If we have the truth, it cannot be harmed by investigation. If we have not the truth, it ought to be harmed.

    Joseph Smith Jr wrote:

    One of the grand fundamental principles of Mormonism is to receive truth, let it come from whence it may.

    There is similar language in the temple, we even have an article of faith that borders on this concept. It’s like with most things, it falls in and out of our consciousness depending on what is currently in front of us and as needed to support a point we are trying to make.

    I think it’s a great principle….but like many other principles, it has not trickled down to the local leadership. In fact, there are cultural norms that work against it, such as obedience to leaders (even at the local level), Learned men are not wise, spiritual feelings trump reason, etcetera, and tradition.

    It takes a focused, concerted effort to change an organization, particularly large ones…statements alone don’t do it. We’ve seen that with statements by Uchrdorft, the essays, etcetera.

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    Science and Religion will always be at odds. Those two include many dissertations and egos . Science and a belief in God do much better together.

    The second law of thermodynamics essentially states everything is headed towards a lesser state of order. Scientists have yet to figure out how the world became organized in the first place. Mutations and evolution can easily explain how things have changed and varied .. But not how the original organizing happened. I put God there.

    The story I like is: “If I walk into my child’s room and it is a mess and I come back later and everything is organized and in its place, I know someone has been there.” We started off with chaos. Everything got organized. Now things are slowly modifying .. That is evolution.

    It works for me.

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